Simon Marlow wrote:
My main concern here is that the remit for the new list is not clear enough. I can see a potential need for two lists:

  * a list for discussion related to teaching Haskell;

  * a list devoted to those learning Haskell, with a less research-
    oriented feel than haskell-cafe.

it's not obvious to me that both of those needs should be served by a single list. I believe it's important that the mailing lists served by haskell.org should have clear non-overlapping topics.

So I suggest that we add haskell-edu for the purposes of discussing the use and teaching of Haskell in education. For the second point above, I'd be inclined not to add a new list, but I don't feel that strongly - if there's a concensus in favour of adding haskell-beginners (for example), that would be fine.

Cheers,
    Simon
Using Simon's names, I think that there is a greater need for haskell-beginners than for haskell-edu. Despite the friendly people on haskell-cafe, it is very intimidating, and very busy (sadly, I've mostly stopped reading it for the latter reason). I don't think that haskell-cafe serves well at all as a forum for beginners, whereas it might serve just fine as a forum for instructors.

In any case, these are two distinct purposes, and I agree with Simon that it's probably unwise to have a single mailing list for both. I would vote for starting a haskell-beginners list and see how it goes. I think that a decent number of experienced people will chip in to answer questions (they don't have to be experts -- just good at explaining things), and in my experience beginners like to help fellow beginners -- i.e. it will sustain itself.

I would also be interested in a haskell-edu list, but as I said before I don't think the demand for it is as great as that for haskell-beginners.

By the way, the haskell-art mailing list is not very active, but it has served a useful role. I wonder if it would help to have a description of it (and any new lists that we create) to the descriptions at:

http://www.haskell.org/haskellwiki/Mailing_lists

   -Paul Hudak










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