Out of interest, was this doc used or if so, is it out of date: http://hadoop.apache.org/hbase/docs/r0.20.3/cygwin.html
Thanks, St.Ack On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 10:23 PM, Andrew Purtell <apurt...@apache.org> wrote: > That's what I still want to know. I also use a Windows system just about on a > daily basis to develop and test HBase. > > I think the objection really is about needing Cygwin (or $deity forbid > Mingwin) to run the scripts to launch a multiprocess install. Windows guys > just don't want to deal with UNIX-isms. Am I wrong? > > However everything can run in a single JVM now, so we aren't far away from > java -jar hbase-all.jar. > > > - Andy > > > ----- Original Message ---- >> From: Jonathan Gray <jl...@streamy.com> >> To: hbase-user@hadoop.apache.org >> Sent: Tue, March 2, 2010 4:17:50 AM >> Subject: RE: Why windows support is critical >> >> What are the issues with developing w/ HBase on Windows 7 x64? I'm doing >> that right now and nothing was any different from doing it on Windows XP >> x86. >> >> I haven't run it to the point of actually doing a start-hbase.sh, but rather >> running things like HBaseClusterTestCase w/o a problem. >> >> JG >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: nocones77-gro...@yahoo.com [mailto:nocones77-gro...@yahoo.com] >> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 8:48 AM >> To: hbase-user@hadoop.apache.org >> Subject: Re: Why windows support is critical >> >> This is my first post to the group, so I'm not sure I have a lot to add to >> the conversation yet. But I've been lurking/searching for a week now, and >> wanted to add a "me too" to Ravi's comments. >> >> The quick-start would be fantastic if it actually worked cross-platform and >> did something meaningful. But I've been very >> frustrated by the problems just doing development on Windows 7 x64, >> which appear to have been experienced by others too but not fixed. Had I >> understood how much of a pain this alone would be, I'd have contemplated >> re-installing my OS, but this didn't become apparent until after several >> days of struggle, and hindsight is 20/20. >> >> I ended up creating a pseudo-distributed installation on Ubuntu in a >> Virtual Box. It all works fine from localhost, and I can run the shell. But >> I don't see how that's useful to anyone who actually wants to build a real >> application. I'm struggling to >> figure out how to "connect" to it from a remote Java client. The >> documentation in this area seems to be sorely lacking, and the painfully >> brief "Also note:" comment in the quick start doesn't seem to actually work. >> (preemptive comment: yes, I know Virtual Box and can connect to the Ubuntu >> machine in every other way I've tried) >> >> Unlike Ravi, I'm confident that the time investment will pay off, and I am >> viewing this as an opportunity to really understand what's going on under >> the covers. I've been building large-scale (mostly SaaS) applications in >> Java for >> over ten years and I'm very comfortable with Linux. But it has still been >> difficult to get started with HBase. I'm making progress...but VERY slowly. >> Like Ravi, I'm also working by myself, attempting to start something new, >> and need to show progress ASAP. >> >> Anyway, the bottom line is that the initial learning curve of >> "bin/start-hbase.sh and start playing around" turned out to not work >> cross-platform, and wasn't very very useful, even when it worked. I've >> resigned myself to having to understand >> almost everything about the entire Hadoop+ZooKeeper+HBase architecture just >> to do a meaningful "hello world" from a Java client. I >> understand why some might give up... >> >> Neal >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Ravi >> To: hbase-user@hadoop.apache.org >> Cc: Tim Robertson >> Sent: Sun, February 28, 2010 5:24:48 PM >> Subject: Re: Why windows support is critical >> >> >> Tim, the only thing I can say to that is that the project needs to be >> able to grow to the size where it will become EC2 capable. >> >> Essentially I represent 1-2 person startups in garages where time to >> market is probably one of the most important criteria. Environment setup >> time and learning curve are factors against widespread adoption for any >> software. >> >> >> On 2/28/2010 11:54 AM, Tim Robertson wrote: >> > For 2) if you look at slides 15,16,17 of >> > http://www.slideshare.net/ghelmling/hbase-at-meetup you can see there >> > are some nice higher level APIs popping up for HBase that help you >> > deal with Objects and not Byte[]. That is open source and can be >> > pulled from http://github.com/ghelmling/meetup.beeno which might be of >> > interest. There are others floating around as well that might be >> > worth checking out. >> > >> > Isn't Windows used only for .Net development? (; >> > I'd have thought that if a project is of sufficient size to consider >> > HBase, then it is big enough that people would set up appropriate dev >> > environments (Mac, Linux, or windows and use EC2 or something as the >> > dev/test cluster). >> > >> > >> > On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 5:17 PM, Ravi wrote: >> >> >> >> I understand that and I agree it cannot be used on windows in production. >> >> However >> >> >> >> 1. I am talking about windows as a development environment. >> >> 2. I am talking about ease of use of API provided >> >> >> >> These are two critical needs of any web application developer. Don't you >> >> think? >> >> >> >> Ravi >> >> >> >> >> >> On 2/28/2010 11:09 AM, Jeff Zhang wrote: >> >>> >> >>> But HBase is build upon hadoop which is not supposed to run on windows >> as >> >>> production environment. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 8:01 AM, Ravi wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Hi everybody, >> >>>> >> >>>> I want to bring up a critical issue i.e. windows support. Today I >> decided >> >>>> to move away from hbase to mongoDB and I want to explain why and I hope >> >>>> this >> >>>> will help the hbase team understand needs of users like me and >> ultimately >> >>>> a >> >>>> better product. >> >>>> >> >>>> I am an entrepreneur working on a web application. I do not have big >> >>>> money >> >>>> or big team. So while I am trying to move a mountain, I want the path >> of >> >>>> least resistance and want a DB that does not pose additional >> challenges. >> >>>> >> >>>> Ultimately I found hbase to be more difficult to install and API to be >> >>>> difficult to use on my windows machine (where I am doing the >> >>>> development). >> >>>> After struggling for a few days, I realize that I am losing steam and I >> >>>> better choose a path of least resistance and I am switching to mongoDB. >> >>>> >> >>>> I do think that hbase is currently ahead. Mongo DB is missing a few >> >>>> critical features for a large website. However if I lose steam, there >> >>>> wouldnt be a website. >> >>>> >> >>>> So I request the hbase team to think if users like me and windows >> >>>> development environment is important enough for the team. A one click >> >>>> install on windows and mongoDB like driver would go a long way to >> compete >> >>>> with other DBs. >> >>>> >> >>>> I hope that helps >> >>>> Ravi >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > >
