nudge - to coax or gently encourage, to touch or push, to prod gently, typically with one's elbow.
Make a sytem's default the behavior you wish to encourage… so sign 'em up! -- Jesse Shumway On Jul 24, 2013, at 7:35 PM, Sebastian Fernandez Giraldo <[email protected]> wrote: > Haha as the person who's post was held up I vote for auto-subscription with a > large "unsubscribe" button at the bottom of emails. It could also be a mix of > certain lists are auto-subscribe and some are not. > > Sebastian Fernandez Giraldo. > > On 7/24/2013 12:08 PM, Lauren McNees wrote: >> I vote for option A, subscribing everyone automatically and letting them >> unsubscribe themselves if they really want to. Thanks for bringing this to >> our attention! >> >> >> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 1:16 AM, Clinton Ebadi <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Greetings, >> >> It came to my attention, after a new hcoop member's post was held for >> approval to hcoop-discuss, that we have not been adding people by >> default to these lists for ... oh, the last *six years*. Which probably >> explains their pitifully low participation rate, especially since it >> seems nowadays folks don't like clicking around our beloved portal to >> find the "Preferences" page... (hell, even I had to sit there for a >> minute to remember where you set list prefs). >> >> I vaguely recall there may have been a reason... a few folks complaining >> about list traffic? But checking the subscriber list, it looks like >> almost none of our members from the last few years have bothered >> subscribing to any of the optional lists! >> >> So, my current thinking is that we should instead subscribe everyone by >> default to -discuss and -help, leaving a note in >> https://wiki.hcoop.net/MemberManual/GettingStarted/AccountCreated about >> *un*subscribing after signing up if the member cares, rather than >> subscribing... something about the relative worth of forgiveness and >> permission. >> >> I like it for another reason -- any new member that complains about >> receiving unwanted list traffic can be easily diverted back to >> AccountCreated, whereas the new member who didn't suffer reading our >> lengthy introductory material and now suffers in silence cannot. Also >> something or other about community building or whatever the hep cats >> call it. >> >> Another, possibly friendlier option: we can also just *invite* new >> members to join the discussion and help lists, leaving them free to take >> no action and also receive no mail while still making them aware the >> lists exist. The major downside I see is that the invite is not very >> descriptive -- the subject is "confirm $hash" where hash is a very long >> hex string, and a test send to gmail ended up in their "special offers" >> folder that they are using to spam gmail users now... (on the bright >> side, it looks like they don't flag our announcements and whatnot as >> spam any more! Go SPF records!) so, I think there's a big chance it >> would be ignored. Forced subscription also sends out a notification, so >> ... >> >> Thoughts? I think it is a big enough change that I hope at least someone >> has thoughts that disagree with mine (given that I sort-of disagree with >> even myself, already)! Or agrees, whatever. Just as long as I am not >> making decisions like this in an echo-chamber (I hear we're >> democratically organized). >> >> If I see no serious opposition I am leaning toward going forward with >> subscribing new members whenever we have our next member sign up, and >> also sending a message to -announce reminding everyone to check their >> list subscriptions because they could be missing out. >> >> -- >> "Karen loved animals. Unfortunately the cheetahs betrayed her trust," >> Libot said. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> HCoop-Discuss mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.hcoop.net/listinfo/hcoop-discuss >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> HCoop-Discuss mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.hcoop.net/listinfo/hcoop-discuss >> >> >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2013.0.3349 / Virus Database: 3209/6518 - Release Date: 07/24/13 >> > > _______________________________________________ > HCoop-Discuss mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.hcoop.net/listinfo/hcoop-discuss
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