yup - that also affects the scaling - see FSLNets doc and the PTN release doc.
Cheers.


> On 30 Mar 2015, at 18:17, Glasser, Matthew <glass...@wusm.wustl.edu> wrote:
> 
> Hi Steve,
> 
> What about the correction for temporal autocorrelation?
> 
> Matt.
> 
> From: Stephen Smith <st...@fmrib.ox.ac.uk <mailto:st...@fmrib.ox.ac.uk>>
> Date: Monday, March 30, 2015 at 12:15 PM
> To: Yizhou Ma <maxxx...@umn.edu <mailto:maxxx...@umn.edu>>
> Cc: "hcp-users@humanconnectome.org <mailto:hcp-users@humanconnectome.org>" 
> <hcp-users@humanconnectome.org <mailto:hcp-users@humanconnectome.org>>
> Subject: Re: [HCP-Users] netmats in HCP
> 
> Hi - one thing is that we estimate (z versions of) netmats separately for 
> each 15min run and then average the 4 netmats to give a single netmat per 
> subject.
> Cheers.
> 
> 
>> On 30 Mar 2015, at 18:14, Yizhou Ma <maxxx...@umn.edu 
>> <mailto:maxxx...@umn.edu>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Timothy,
>> 
>> Thank you for pointing that out. I typed that wrong but I used the correct 
>> transformation in matlab. As I said my transformed z scores are actually 
>> almost perfectly linearly correlated with HCP netmats, though the latter is 
>> much larger. I want to understand why the latter is larger and why the two 
>> are not exactly correlated.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Cherry
>> 
>> On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Timothy Coalson <tsc...@mst.edu 
>> <mailto:tsc...@mst.edu>> wrote:
>>> A quick possibility: if you have pasted in the formula you used, I see an 
>>> order of operations problem: .5*ln(1+r)-ln(1-r) means (.5*ln(1+r))-ln(1-r), 
>>> where the usual formula is .5*ln((1+r)/(1-r)), which after some log 
>>> identities becomes .5*(ln(1+r)-ln(1-r)).
>>> 
>>> Tim
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Yizhou Ma <maxxx...@umn.edu 
>>> <mailto:maxxx...@umn.edu>> wrote:
>>>> Dear HCP experts,
>>>> 
>>>> I am trying to reproduce the individual netmats from HCP500-PTN so that I 
>>>> am sure where the numbers come from. I used individual node timeseries in 
>>>> /ts2/subjID and did correlation in matlab. I then used fisher's z 
>>>> transformation: .5*ln(1+r)-ln(1-r). The resulting netmat is different from 
>>>> what is provided in *_netmat1/. However, they almost have a linear 
>>>> relationship. It seems to me that HCP is not using the same z 
>>>> transformation I have used. The transformation seems more like 
>>>> 7*ln(1+r)-ln(1-r).
>>>> 
>>>> I have downloaded FSLNets but could not identify which function was used 
>>>> to generate individual netmats in the first place. The example script 
>>>> seems to be about group-level netmats only.
>>>> 
>>>> Could you please share with me how exactly the numbers in individual 
>>>> netmats were generated?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Cherry
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