Decommissioning is for removing DNs and not the NN.

Warm Regards,
Tariq
https://mtariq.jux.com/
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On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 5:18 AM, Arko Provo Mukherjee <
arkoprovomukher...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I was just wondering if it is okay to exclude the NN IP.
>
> I hope it won't create any "side effects".
>
> This is because I don't want to actually decommission the NN node, but
> just make it stop working as a DataNode.
>
> However, if you are sure there are no problems, I will go ahead and
> make the changes.
>
> Thanks & regards
> Arko
>
> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Mohammad Tariq <donta...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > It should.
> >
> > BTW what's the problem with decommissioning?It's the correct way of
> removing
> > the DN, as said by Charles earlier. Create the exclude file and add the
> > property in the hdfs-site.xml file.
> >
> > Warm Regards,
> > Tariq
> > https://mtariq.jux.com/
> > cloudfront.blogspot.com
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 5:05 AM, Arko Provo Mukherjee
> > <arkoprovomukher...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I see that the NameNode IP is present in conf/slaves file.
> >>
> >> Will removing the IP of the NN from the conf/slaves file and
> >> restarting hadoop help?
> >>
> >> Thanks & regards
> >> Arko
> >>
> >> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Arko Provo Mukherjee
> >> <arkoprovomukher...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > I have 10 nodes. 1 Master Node (running all deamons) and 9 Slave Nodes
> >> > (running DN and Task Tracker).
> >> >
> >> > My issue is that the my NN is getting filled up pretty fast as the NN
> >> > acts as a DN.
> >> >
> >> > I want my NN not to function as the DN.
> >> >
> >> > Does including the IP for the NN in the "dfs.hosts.exclude" and
> >> > running "$ hadoop dfsadmin -refreshNodes" solve my problem?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks & regards
> >> > Arko
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Mohammad Tariq <donta...@gmail.com>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >> Stopping DN on one machine means excluding it. What exactly is the
> >> >> requirement? How many nodes do you have right now?
> >> >>
> >> >> Warm Regards,
> >> >> Tariq
> >> >> https://mtariq.jux.com/
> >> >> cloudfront.blogspot.com
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 4:36 AM, Arko Provo Mukherjee
> >> >> <arkoprovomukher...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Hi,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I am not sure the provided link matches my situation.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> That is because, I am not trying to exclude any node but just trying
> >> >>> to stop the NN act as a DataNode.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Thanks & regards
> >> >>> Arko
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Arko Provo Mukherjee
> >> >>> <arkoprovomukher...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>> > Thanks! Let me study and find out if it works for me.
> >> >>> > Thanks & regards
> >> >>> > Arko
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 2:28 PM, Arko Provo Mukherjee
> >> >>> > <arkoprovomukher...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>> >> Hi,
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> But the new location will also be the same NN physical server.
> >> >>> >> So how does that help?
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> I would like to clear up the space in the master by removing all
> >> >>> >> the
> >> >>> >> HDFS data to the slave nodes.
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> Thanks & regards
> >> >>> >> Arko
> >> >>> >>
> >> >>> >> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Mohammad Tariq
> >> >>> >> <donta...@gmail.com>
> >> >>> >> wrote:
> >> >>> >>> No, copy this directory to the new location of your choice.
> >> >>> >>>
> >> >>> >>> Warm Regards,
> >> >>> >>> Tariq
> >> >>> >>> https://mtariq.jux.com/
> >> >>> >>> cloudfront.blogspot.com
> >> >>> >>>
> >> >>> >>>
> >> >>> >>> On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 1:42 AM, Arko Provo Mukherjee
> >> >>> >>> <arkoprovomukher...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>> >>>>
> >> >>> >>>> Thanks!
> >> >>> >>>> However, in that case, how do I handle the current data that is
> >> >>> >>>> already in
> >> >>> >>>> NN?
> >> >>> >>>> Do I have to reformat HDFS?
> >> >>> >>>> Thanks & regards
> >> >>> >>>> Arko
> >> >>> >>>>
> >> >>> >>>> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Mohammad Tariq
> >> >>> >>>> <donta...@gmail.com>
> >> >>> >>>> wrote:
> >> >>> >>>> > Just don't run the DN daemon on that machine. Dedicate that
> >> >>> >>>> > machine
> >> >>> >>>> > to
> >> >>> >>>> > NN.
> >> >>> >>>> > Remove the hostname of the NN machine from the 'slaves' file.
> >> >>> >>>> >
> >> >>> >>>> > Warm Regards,
> >> >>> >>>> > Tariq
> >> >>> >>>> > https://mtariq.jux.com/
> >> >>> >>>> > cloudfront.blogspot.com
> >> >>> >>>> >
> >> >>> >>>> >
> >> >>> >>>> > On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 1:31 AM, Arko Provo Mukherjee
> >> >>> >>>> > <arkoprovomukher...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>> >>>> >>
> >> >>> >>>> >> Hi,
> >> >>> >>>> >>
> >> >>> >>>> >> Thanks for the help!
> >> >>> >>>> >>
> >> >>> >>>> >> However, I am still unsure about how to "turn off" the
> >> >>> >>>> >> datanode
> >> >>> >>>> >> feature on the NN.
> >> >>> >>>> >>
> >> >>> >>>> >> I checked the "hdfs-site.xml" file and the dfs.data.dir is
> >> >>> >>>> >> pointed
> >> >>> >>>> >> to
> >> >>> >>>> >> a directory.
> >> >>> >>>> >>
> >> >>> >>>> >> Should I just comment out that property? What would happen
> to
> >> >>> >>>> >> the
> >> >>> >>>> >> current data that there is in the Master? Will it get
> removed
> >> >>> >>>> >> automatically?
> >> >>> >>>> >>
> >> >>> >>>> >> Thanks & regards
> >> >>> >>>> >> Arko
> >> >>> >>>> >>
> >> >>> >>>> >>
> >> >>> >>>> >>
> >> >>> >>>> >> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Mohammad Tariq
> >> >>> >>>> >> <donta...@gmail.com>
> >> >>> >>>> >> wrote:
> >> >>> >>>> >> > You can specify the logging level as specified by Charles.
> >> >>> >>>> >> > But
> >> >>> >>>> >> > turning
> >> >>> >>>> >> > logs
> >> >>> >>>> >> > off is never a good idea. Logs are really helpful in
> problem
> >> >>> >>>> >> > diagnosis,
> >> >>> >>>> >> > which are eventual.
> >> >>> >>>> >> >
> >> >>> >>>> >> > Warm Regards,
> >> >>> >>>> >> > Tariq
> >> >>> >>>> >> > https://mtariq.jux.com/
> >> >>> >>>> >> > cloudfront.blogspot.com
> >> >>> >>>> >> >
> >> >>> >>>> >> >
> >> >>> >>>> >> > On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 1:22 AM, Arko Provo Mukherjee
> >> >>> >>>> >> > <arkoprovomukher...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>> >>>> >> >>
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> Hi,
> >> >>> >>>> >> >>
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> Yeah, my NameNode is also seconding as a DataNode.
> >> >>> >>>> >> >>
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> I would like to "turn off" this feature.
> >> >>> >>>> >> >>
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> Request help regarding the same.
> >> >>> >>>> >> >>
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> Thanks & regards
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> Arko
> >> >>> >>>> >> >>
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Charles Baker
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> <cba...@sdl.com>
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > Hi Arko. Sounds like you may be running a DataNode on
> the
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > NameNode
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > which
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > is
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > not recommended practice. Normally, the only files the
> NN
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > stores
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > are
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > the
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > image and edits files. It does not store any actual
> HDFS
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > data. If
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > you
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > must
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > run a DN on the NN, try turning down the logging in
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > /conf/log4j.properties:
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > #hadoop.root.logger=INFO,console
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > #hadoop.root.logger=WARN,console
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > hadoop.root.logger=ERROR,console
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > Depending on the logging information you require, of
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > course.
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > -Chuck
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > From: Arko Provo Mukherjee
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > [mailto:arkoprovomukher...@gmail.com]
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 11:32 AM
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > To: hdfs-user@hadoop.apache.org
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > Subject: Managing space in Master Node
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > Hello Gurus,
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > I am managing a Hadoop Cluster to run some experiments.
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > The issue I am continuously facing is that the Master
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > Node
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > runs
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > out
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > of
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > disk
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > space due to logs and data files.
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > I can monitor and delete log files. However, I cannot
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > delete
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > the
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > HDFS
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > data.
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > Thus, is there a way to force Hadoop not to save any
> HDFS
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > data in
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > the
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > Master
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > Node?
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > Then I can use my master to handle the metadata only
> and
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > store the
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > logs.
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > Thanks & regards
> >> >>> >>>> >> >> > Arko
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