Wauw, this mailing list suddenly lit up, didn't it?

Thanks to Greg for link to manpages (so far I have been looking in the 
manpages.pdf that comes with the distribution).

I have also studied Jessi Stumpfels paper on sky capture. We were even in 
contact with the authors to try to get an understanding of how we could not 
achieve what they achieved.

To sum up on what we tried in terms of attempting to capture nice (and correct) 
sky light probes:

1) Canon 1Ds Mark II camera
2) Sigma 2.8 fish eye lens, 180+ degrees field-of-view
3) 3.0 neutral density filter, mounted inside lens, used for capture of all 
exposures, ie., it was not removed for capture of sky luminances
4) darkest exposure (to capture sun pixels without saturation) was achieved 
with a 1/8000 s exposure, don't remember aperture ... 
5) since the sun is roughly 100.000 times brighter than the sky we must have 
had an exposure sequence spanning 16 or 17 f-stops
6) sun pixels were not saturated in darkest exposure
7) sky pixels were properly exposed in brightest exposure
8) we controlled the camera from a laptop to automate the bracketing sequence 
acquisition
9) taking one full exposure sequence took more than one minute (getting 
properly exposed sky pixels with a 3.0 ND filter requires very long exposure 
time)

At first we attempted simply to HDR fuse all exposures in one go, but the HDR 
sky probes never came out nice. I suspect there is some numerical resolution 
problem internally in HDRshop, which resulted in sky colors coming out very 
ugly. When using HDRshop, regardless of what the actual top luminance of the 
exposure is, the highest HDR fusion value is always 1.0. With a 16 f-stop 
sequence, where the sun pixels in the fusion result are roughly 1.0 or 0.9, 
then sky pixels are going to be on the order of 0.00001 ... maybe that's too 
small values for HDRshop to handle without numerical problems?

Then we tried fusing the low end and the high end of the exposure sequence 
separately and then "manually" merging them. I.e., we made a HDR light probe 
image where the sun and the corona (or whatever the bright area around the sun 
is called) was definitely saturated, but the sky and cloud pixels were good. 
Then we thresholded that, and replaced the pixels above the threshold with 
pixels from a properly scaled version of the HDR fusion result from the top end 
of the exposure sequence (in order to get the correct sun and corona 
luminances).

This approach sort of worked. There were some color artifact along the edge of 
the corona, i.e., where the lower end HDR had been tresholded and pixels were 
inserted from the higher end HDR.

But it was not really a neat solution.


Best,
Claus


-----Original Message-----
From: Gregory J. Ward [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: 26. januar 2011 03:50
To: High Dynamic Range Imaging
Subject: Re: [HDRI] capturing with concentrated light sources?

There was a brief mention of the source creation algorithm I developed for 
mksource in the 2005 workshop notes:

        
http://www.radiance-online.org/radiance-workshop4/cd/website/PDF/Ward_talk1.pdf

As for man pages, you can always get to these online via:

        http://radsite.lbl.gov/radiance/man_html/whatis.html

I just noticed that the entry for mksource was missing, so I added it.  Others 
are probably missing as well.  Sigh.  We do need to update our web resources, 
don't we?

Best,
-Greg
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