I checked previous editions of ES and their also was a refrence to Gelal or Shevil It is not a change from previous editions of the Dictionary.
I don’t agree that it is wrong. I wouldn’t change it. Yossi From: Heb-naco <heb-naco-boun...@lists.osu.edu> On Behalf Of Robert M. TALBOTT via Heb-naco Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2019 4:52 PM To: Neil Manel Frau-Cortes <nf...@umd.edu>; Hebrew Name Authority Funnel <heb-naco@lists.osu.edu> Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] בגלל Folks: I have to say that I'm in Yosi's camp. A vote for "bi-gelal" is a vote for sanity. B On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 1:23 PM Neil Manel Frau-Cortes via Heb-naco <heb-naco@lists.osu.edu<mailto:heb-naco@lists.osu.edu>> wrote: I agree with Jasmin. Neil On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 4:20 PM Shinohara, Jasmin via Heb-naco <heb-naco@lists.osu.edu<mailto:heb-naco@lists.osu.edu>> wrote: I hear the concern, Yossi, but I’m afraid we’ve already started down the proverbial slope. Per the FAQ<http://rascat.pbworks.com/w/page/109347700/Romanization%20FAQ>, we’ve agreed to romanize the words as Bediʻavad Bahem Bilvad Kaʻet Kefi Levad Lemaʻan Lefi Mimeni Sheli No one can argue for Shvil since the sheva na’ at the beginning of a word requires it to be Shevil. No one can argue for Birushalayim because there is no E-Sh. entry for the compound. So do I hear consensus on Biglal (and Bishvil – when it means “because/on behalf of”; otherwise bi/ba-shevil when it means “on a/the path)? From: Heb-naco [mailto:heb-naco-boun...@lists.osu.edu<mailto:heb-naco-boun...@lists.osu.edu>] On Behalf Of Galron, Joseph via Heb-naco Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2019 12:52 PM To: Hebrew Name Authority Funnel Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] בגלל It is “dangerous” going to Biglal or Bishvil – tomorrow we will say: If it is Bishvil so why not change it to Shvil We also Romanize בירושלים to “Bi-Yerushalayim” and not to “Birushalayim” Yossi From: Heb-naco <heb-naco-boun...@lists.osu.edu<mailto:heb-naco-boun...@lists.osu.edu>> On Behalf Of Shinohara, Jasmin via Heb-naco Sent: Thursday, February 7, 2019 12:31 PM To: Gottschalk, Haim <h...@loc.gov<mailto:h...@loc.gov>>; 'Hebrew Name Authority Funnel' <heb-naco@lists.osu.edu<mailto:heb-naco@lists.osu.edu>> Subject: Re: [Heb-NACO] בגלל Hi, Haim, bi-gelal would be correct if the ב is considered a prefix to the word גלל. But since there is a direct entry for the word as a whole, I’m asking if we should romanize it as a whole word instead of as a compound word. Thanks, Jasmin From: Gottschalk, Haim [mailto:h...@loc.gov] Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2019 12:24 PM To: Shinohara, Jasmin; 'Hebrew Name Authority Funnel' Subject: RE: בגלל I think it should be “biglal” and not “bi-gelal” because of the sheva being treat as a sheva nach (which is how it is in the Alcalay). This is in my humble opinion. ~Haim From: Heb-naco <heb-naco-boun...@lists.osu.edu<mailto:heb-naco-boun...@lists.osu.edu>> On Behalf Of Shinohara, Jasmin via Heb-naco Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2019 11:00 AM To: Hebrew Name Authority Funnel <heb-naco@lists.osu.edu<mailto:heb-naco@lists.osu.edu>> Subject: [Heb-NACO] בגלל Hello Collective Wisdom, please remind me: if there’s an entry in E-Sh., even if it ends with a “see also”, is that sufficient justification for romanizing the word as a word as opposed to a compound? E.g. בגלל has a direct entry, so I’d think it would be romanized biglal (NOT bigelal because as a whole word, the sheva would be considered merahef, ignored in romanization), but the entry also says “see גלל”. So which is it: Biglal or Bi-gelal? Thanks, Jasmin --- Jasmin Shinohara Hebraica Cataloging Librarian University of Pennsylvania Van Pelt-Dietrich Library Center 3420 Walnut Street Philadelphia, PA 19104-6206 T. 215-746-6397 jsh...@upenn.edu<mailto:jsh...@upenn.edu> _______________________________________________ Heb-naco mailing list Heb-naco@lists.osu.edu<mailto:Heb-naco@lists.osu.edu> https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/heb-naco -- Neil M. Frau-Cortes, Ph.D. (he, him, his) Judaica, Hebraica and Metadata Cataloger University of Maryland 4109 McKeldin Library College Park, MD 20742 Phone (301) 405-9337 nf...@umd.edu<http://nf...@umd.edu> ORCID ID: https://orcid.org/0000-0002-1881-1405 _______________________________________________ Heb-naco mailing list Heb-naco@lists.osu.edu<mailto:Heb-naco@lists.osu.edu> https://lists.osu.edu/mailman/listinfo/heb-naco -- Bob Talbott Principal cataloger/Hebraica cataloger UC Berkeley 250 Moffitt Berkeley, CA 94720 If they're too small for court, they're probably shorts. If they're long and advanced, you're looking at pants
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