Hi,

On 05/03/2013 06:57 PM, Dominik Taborsky wrote:
> On Fri, 03 May 2013 17:57:21 +0200, Martin Sucha <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Dominik,
>>
>> On 05/03/2013 05:19 PM, Dominik Taborsky wrote:
>>> I think you may have misunderstood the point of this library. This
>>> library is aimed at HelenOS, not to replace standard tools. It is for
>>> the case when you have blank harddrive so that you can format it and
>>> install HelenOS. It's not designed to fit all needs. If it is really
>>> necessary (for inter-OS compatibility), you can use better tool instead,
>>> since you are going to be using a different OS anyway.
>> I tend to disagree, I'd like to be able to install HelenOS alongside
>> another operating system (or two) from within HelenOS, even on a
>> notebook computer with recovery partitions and such things. I think the
>> ultimate goal is for HelenOS to *be* the standard OS you use to run
>> programs on your computer ;)
>>
>> I already have triple-boot setup on my laptop (Windows/Linux/HelenOS),
>> why should I have to purchase a separate hard-disk just to use the
>> installer on real hardware?
> 
> What I meant was that when you do this kind of setup, you partition the
> drive from Linux anyway. I also have dual, triple or multiple boot
> setups. When you get your hardware with preinstalled Windows, you have
> to run Linux so that you can run ntfs-resize, for example. When you
> don't plan on using Windows but only sensible OSs like Linux, then you
> either partition the drive from Linux so that you can use LVM and other
> advanced stuff, or you are just fine with LBA-only MBR from HelenOS.

OK, so if I add say working ext4fsresize (or ntfsresize) to HelenOS,
would the installation work on my computer without using Linux?
(It wasn't clear to me from your previous e-mail, since you mentioned
that it is for the case when you have a blank harddrive).

>>
>> So instead of saying the library is implemented this way because it is
>> aimed at HelenOS, isn't it better to say that the aim was to create a
>> prototype for your thesis?
> 
> Surely, I admit it is for my thesis. But I also sincerely think an
> all-or-nothing implementation is not necessary. Or do you have disks
> smaller than 8.4GB on top of legacy hardware and use legacy OSs? :-)
Well, I also own a box with a 486-like SoC, who knows how the IDE
emulation for the 1GB SD card that contains an old Linux image is done :)
But yes, it probably could be reformatted if necessary.

Regards,
Martin Sucha


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