Mentee,
The lantern looks very nice. And the fact that you can use multiple kinds of fuel is great. That lantern would be a nice device for adding both light and heat to a hexayurt. So I may just order one of those lanterns. But I guess it is safe to say that most folks will not have such a lantern when the last balloon goes up. Consequently, I got thinking about field expedient ways to heat the hexayurt. If the hexayurt is set up in an urban or suburban area, you have a markedly different situation than you do when you are in the woods. As I see it, the hexayurt will most frequently be used in urban and suburban areas. So starting fires in order to heat stones to be put into the hexayurt for radiant heat may not be a realistic option. We should remember that isopropyl rubbing alcohol does not produce carbon monoxide, so you can safely burn alcohol in an indoor situation. One easy way to add heat to a hexayurt, at least on a short term basis, is to construct a coffee can heater. It’s simple enough. Just take a coffee can and fill it about half way full with dry sand and then add alcohol. Now light the device. A bit of manipulation will allow you to both heat and cook with the apparatus. If you don’t want to use sand, you can use toilet paper in a can. http://www.wrh.noaa.gov/ggw/pdf/winter_survival_1.pdf No……………..I haven’t come up with a panacea, but it’s one more idea to add to your mental tool chest. Royce From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: [hexayurt] Re: Heating a hexayurt Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 00:59:05 -0700 Did you see the post I made today “[hexayurt] Heat, cook and read w/ any fuel” Your light can also be your heat and cooking source, I’m saving up for one now From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Richard Ginn Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 1:34 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [hexayurt] Re: Heating a hexayurt On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 2:24 PM, lance95 <[email protected]> wrote: This is my first day on this discussion board. And I want to thank everyone for the work that they have done. I am impressed. I’m very interested in empowering myself and others to survive in a battered economy. I have, for the last couple of years, studied a wide range of options for those with only minimal resources. I am very involved with alternative medical treatments, especially those associated with Qi Gong. I believe medical issues to be very important area since our quality of life depends largely on the state of our health. My research suggests to me that one might be well advised to remember that threats to one’s plans to survive a calamity can arise from many sources, which include the federal, state and local governments. Consider the harassment that can come for simple vagrancy. In regard to semi permanent shelters, I’m greatly interested in both the traditional yurt designs and the hexayurt. Has anyone extensively tested the hexayurt in cold climates where there is the possibility of heavy snowfalls? And what about heating the hexayurt? Wood gasification stoves—forced air stoves—are fine for cooking out in the open, but the don’t meet the needs of someone cooking in a hexayurt that lacks some kind of a chimney. I realize that there are archives. And I will try to access them. Possibly concerns such as mine have already been fully addressed. Thanks again. Royce One idea is that a certain level of insulation will allow body heat alone to warm the hexayurt enough to make it comfortable, or at least survivable, without any stove or other heat source. I made some quick calculations and found that a double-thick wall (2" or even 4") would be enough to do this. Here's the spreadsheet I used to play with these values, it's public and you can edit this version collectively online (I don't know what happens if everyone does this but we will find out?): http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=rmQX7jB6fyQyIiupDv_JW-A Play with that, see what happens :) And the non-editable source version is here, which you can view, and export for your own use offline: http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=peGYuk9F27fr7LwntwVZEDA Basically, if the walls are insulated enough and you control air exchange enough, and you have enough people in the shelter, then it is warm enough with only body heat. Thinking about "Day Zero" or "Day 1" scenarios, people need to survive the first night as easily as possible. Also, a 'body heat only' shelter eliminates the danger that a stove creates (fireball). Richard Ginn _________________________________________________________________ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail®. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_QuickAdd1_052009 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hexayurt" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/hexayurt?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
