For 6 watts you can power a 12-volt CPU water cooling pump that is rated at
132 gallons per hour, and then you don't have to wick the water at all:

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/6073/ex-pmp-53/Danger_Den_DD-CPX1_12V_3-Pin_Powered_Pump_-_DD-CPX1.html?tl=g30c107s153

On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 5:11 PM, ken winston caine <
k...@mindbodyspiritjournal.com> wrote:

> Jack, I've experimented with developing a 7-watt, self-wicking swamp cooler
> that works pretty well.
>
> Haven't experimented with EVERY fabric known to man, but did find,
> surprisingly, that absorbant paper towels tended to wick better than about
> any cloth fabric I could test.But even., then, they tend to wick up only
> about 6 inches above the water surface.
>
> What really helps is to hang them with open pleats facing the air source
> and
> allowing a tiny bit of air space between each hanging wick. That allows the
> air to pass between them a tiny bit. If using a high-efficiency,
> low-wattage
> 12v fan made for use in RVs and campers, having the open end of the pleat
> facing the fan's exhaust also helps the pleats balloon a bit and speeds
> evaporation.
>
> My design provides 8 to 10 degree cooling for about 5 feet in front of the
> swamp cooler exhaust. So it's a personal cooler, not a room cooler.
> Although
> it does noticeably help cool the room a tiny bit, so long as you have fresh
> air vents in the room bringing in occasional super dry gusts. That's when
> you notice the moisture evaporating in areas of the room other than
> directly
> in front of the cooler.
>
> The more folds of wicking material you can fit in your box (if buidling a
> swamp cooler) the more cooling effect you'll get.
>
> Have yet to experiment with putting the fan on the top of the box, ponting
> down at the wicks and water tray on the bottom. Am planning to test that
> next.
>
> Have tried quite a few variations. Have found that the fan BEHIND the
> wicks,
> blowing air through them, provides better cooling than locating the fan in
> front of the wicks so that it *draws* the air through the wicks.
>
> Also have found that having a larger intake opening than exhaust opening
> seems to help a bit, too. About a 2::1 ratio has seemed best in my
> experiments.
>
> You can do these with cardboard boxes and duct tape and  rubber maid
> shoe-box size plastic containers.
>
> The type of fan I use is this:
>
> http://www.campingworld.com/shopping/item/fan-tastic-endless-breeze-12v-fan/38132
>
> I also found at the end of summer about six years ago at a Wal Mart in
> Albuquerque a season closeout price on  Wal-Mart's "Ozark Trails" version
> of
> this fan and bought seven of them for $4 each and am using those in two of
> my swamp cooler. They actually use less wattage than the Endless Breeze,
> but
> push slightly less air through, too.
>
> May have been four years ago I wrote here about Buckminster Fuller's proven
> "cooling effect," but have not yet heard of anyone experimenting with it on
> the playa with hexayurts.
>
> Fuller proved that putting a rain-capped stovepipe in the center of the
> roof
> of his circular dymation house or at the apex of the roof of a geodesic
> dome, and then having open vents about 1 foot above floor level around the
> walls of the building created an amazing, counter-intuitive cooling effect.
> The ratio of low-wall vent airflow capacity to roof vent was about 4 to 1,
> if I recall correctly.
>
> What happens -- and Fuller demonstrated this multiple times, including in a
> dome at the equator built for the U.S. military -- is that as the ground
> around the building and the walls of the building heat up as the sun beats
> down, this creates a flow of warm air rising around the outside of the
> building. That rising air creates suction at the floor level vents, pulling
> air out of the building. That causes a rush of air to be pulled down into
> the building through the roof vent.
>
> Fuller said this phenomenon extends for hundreds of feet into the air above
> the building. So you have hot air rising in a circle around the building
> and
> COOL air from higher in the atmosphere hundreds of feet above the building
> being sucked down the center of the invisible column.
>
> The cooling effect was commonly reported to be in the range of 20 degrees.
> That is, the air coming in through the root pipe and dropping on the room
> had an effect of cooling the room by about 20 degrees from its temperature
> with the vents all closed.
>
> Pretty amazing. Completely passive (other than opening and closing vents).
> And, other than the initial cost to build (the pvc or stove pipe and rain
> cap and dampers), free.
>
> I say that this is counter intuitive because normally we expect interior
> heat to rise and exit through a roof vent. And normally it does. And that
> certainly helps exhaust heat from the room or building. But it doesn't
> bring
> in a nice, steady, flow of cool air that drops on the room from the
> ceiling.
>
> Hope that helps inspire someone to experiment and report their results.
>
> Best,
> ken winston caine
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jack Senechal" <jacksenec...@gmail.com>
> To: <hexayurt@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 3:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [hexayurt] Windows
>
>
> I've used metal tape to fix a plexiglass panel to the outside, and it
> worked great. You could do two for better insulation, one inside and
> one out. And if you have two panels of plexiglass, you can bolt
> through them for extra solidity. But I think that might be overkill
> for the Playa. Having the cutout in there to block the sun during the
> part of the day when it shines in the window directly would probably
> be a good idea.
>
> Regarding ventilation, I suspect that it would work well to generate
> an updraft by installing a black chimney pipe in the roof. That would
> draw air up when the sun shines on it, pulling it in through your
> vents below.
>
> As an added bonus, you could put a damp cloth over the vent so air has
> to pass through it, which would cool it down and moisturize the air.
> You'd need a course fabric for that, something that's absorbent and
> loosely woven so air could pass through well. You could drape the
> bottom into a bucket of water, and it would wick it up continuously.
>
> I haven't actually tried those ventilation ideas to work out the kinks
> yet, but I intend to do that this year. The principles behind it are
> sound though :)
>
> Jack
>
> On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Milt Fisher <mfisher...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I was planning to tape the filters to the outside after setting up. That
> > way
> > I could replace the cutouts during dust storms if too much dust came
> > through
> > the filters.
> > Did you just have one filter? Was that enough to provide ventilation?
> > On Jul 4, 2011, at 9:44 AM, Steve Upstill <upst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Don't know if you're headed for the Playa, but I liked my hyurt nice and
> > dark. I had great results with a furnace filter: cut a hole just small
> > enough to hold the filter firmly. Bonus: you can still fold/stack your
> > panels.
> > Cheers,
> > Steve
> > --
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> > do
> > criticize him, you'll be a mile away and you'll have his shoes.
> >
> > On Jul 4, 2011, at 9:03 AM, Milt Fisher wrote:
> >>
> >> I'd like some recommendations for hexayurt windows. I'm not interested
> in
> >> framed, sliding windows with screens, just some plastic of some kind
> >> taped
> >> over a hole in the panel. Any recommendations on what kind of plastic to
> >> use? Thin plexiglas maybe? Or perhaps flexible vinyl?
> >
> >
> > Any other ideas for simple windows?
> > I'm planning to tape the plastic to the outside and hinge the panel
> cutout
> > into the window opening so we can close it when we want darkness.
> > Thanks,
> > Milt
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