Greetings,
Couple of quick thoughts about this.
For a "standard" hexayurt, with 8' walls, (H18) one would need:
+ walls:
- 6 8' long 180 degree clips
- 6 8' long 120 degree clips
- 11 pre-edge-taped 4'x8' pieces of Super Tuff 2"
- 1 pre-edge-taped 4'x8' piece of Super Tuff 2" modified for a door
+ roof:
- 6 8' long 180 degree clips
- 6 8.94' long 150.5 degree clips
- 12 diagonally-cut, pre-edge-taped pieces of Super Tuff 2" (probably
shipped/stored in 6 4'x8' sheets)
+ roof to the wall attachment:
- 6 8' long 120 degree clips
For a total clip count of:
+ 12 8' long 180 degree clips
+ 12 8' long 120 degree clips
+ 6 8.94' long 150.5 degree clips
It occurs to me that if you make some sort of foot-long cap, for the
roof-juncture, you could make all the clips 8' long, have overhangs on the
cap, over each of the heads of the roof-clips, and have curved segments of
a sphere on the top, that one could attach one's ropes to. And if the
clips are a little shorter than exactly 8' long, you could also produce
corner-caps, so people don't have to trim/bevel their clips for them not to
butt into each other at the junctures.
You could also have extruded buttons that one could lace the clips to
each other at the junction points, and just extend out from the roof
buttons as the various tie-down points, instead of having to do rope halos
or the like, since the downward force would be transmitted along all of the
clips.
The clips might be deep enough to allow for the stability of the 8' side
of the boards to be perpendicular to the ground, which might make putting
on the roof a bit of a challenge, involving ladders or stilts. My normal
way of doing it, is to put the roof together, then put the first layer of
the wall together, attach the roof on the top of that existing layer of the
wall, then put the second layer of the wall together, and lift the
roof+wall onto that. The door is more tricky that way, though.
These clips would be really useful for building the tri-domes and
quad-domes as well. Especially the quad-domes, since, it look like the are
basically 4 full hexayurt roofs as walls, with 1 full 8x8 square (as the
actual roof), and 4 bisected 8x8 squares (triangles with sides 8'x8'x11.3').
Just thinking,
Percival
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 1:09 AM, Al Noel Sansolis <the118ta...@yahoo.com>wrote:
> Hello fellow yurters!
>
> The short update...no production until tested at BM 2013.
>
> Vinay: Thank you for the reply! Considering that you are the father of
> the hexayurt, I am honored with your response.
>
> I've been simulating scenarios with different geometries and have reached
> a point where it's time to test how well the edges seal out water. If
> needed, a more economical tape can be used to seal the roof instead of
> bi-filament tape which is expensive and can delaminate the skins from
> the panels when removed. A tarp/rainfly over the roof attached to the 1/4"
> holes at the clip ends in rainy conditions is also an option.
>
> The hexagonal structure is a very rigid shape; I am picturing a 6-person
> team to lift the roof onto the walls. If done this way, the clips do not
> need to grip the panels but focus on keeping the panels in position.
>
> "Affordable" still remains to be determined but with a growing yurt
> population of 250+ on the playa from 2011 to 2012, the market may now be
> substantial enough compared to 2008 or 2009. The feedback from this forum
> has been priceless!
>
> Aimee: The yurtclips need to be tested.
>
> Sean: These are the ends of the yurtclips for the 90deg and 180deg
> configurations:
>
>
>
> <https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-SpinzywTjoM/Uf1ed1QhTnI/AAAAAAAAABc/kVke3BipjQw/s1600/IMG_2401.JPG>
> In regards to the tetrayurt, yurtclips at a T-intersection will need a
> 1.25" strip of tape and 2" at a Y-intersection to fully seal the shelter.
> Because the yurtclips are rigid and are anchored with L-brackets, masking
> tape can be used.
> With the tetrayurt having an 8-foot ceiling, bunk beds and/or shelves will
> fit.
>
> I am finalizing the design of yurtclips at 120deg and 151deg for hexayurts.
>
> Having said all that, does someone want to volunteer (in addition to
> myself) using yurtclips at BM this year?
>
> Thank you for all your questions and feedback!
> AlNoel S.
>
>
> On Sunday, August 11, 2013 3:05:03 AM UTC-7, Vinay Gupta wrote:
>
>> PS: sorry for the late reply on this, I've been run off my legs for the
>> last month or so and am X-hundred emails behind.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Vinay Gupta (Hexayurt Shelter Project)
>> <hexa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> AlNoel, I'm glad to see somebody trying the extrusions/clips approach.
>>> We kicked it around in 2008 or 2009 but instead chose to develop the tape
>>> option, largely because of the manufacturing difficulties of getting
>>> extrusions made without a substantial market lined up. I'm glad you've
>>> figured out an affordable way to do this!
>>>
>>> Couple of things we found worth pondering:
>>> 1) Tiny variations in materials thickness can make a big difference to
>>> clip grip strength
>>>
>>> 2) water handling - the top edge of the clip can get water under it,
>>> which will flow up-and-under to the side of the panel or even inside the
>>> unit, again largely depending on grip strength
>>>
>>> I hope you'll post lots of pictures of the clips: if it works, it would
>>> be a viable option to get them manufactured at the angles needed for the
>>> six-sided geometries, which would be great for everybody!
>>>
>>> Good luck, and keep us posted.
>>>
>>> Vinay
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 10:35 PM, Al Noel Sansolis <the11...@yahoo.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi guys,
>>>> With all the preparations for burning man, I do not have time to build
>>>> a sexy hexayurt. I do have time to assemble a rectangular yurt
>>>> with tapeless joints.
>>>> I have engineered reusable joints that slip fit over the edges of
>>>> 1"x4'x8' sheets; I call them yurtclipz. They will be made from recycled
>>>> plastic or aluminum. Depending on your imagination, the layout options are
>>>> endless. The configurations are based on 4'x8' modules all with 8'
>>>> ceilings.
>>>> I'm fabricating a set for me and my friends and was wondering if anyone
>>>> one else might be interested. The more sets ordered, the more economical
>>>> it is but we're aiming for $190/set for the 160 sq.ft configuration, 19
>>>> sheets required. If you're interested, I will deliver the set to you on
>>>> the playa because they won't be done until the 21st. I'm in the LA area
>>>> but I don't mind delivering it to you on the playa assuming 1000 sets
>>>> aren't ordered!
>>>>
>>>> I'm sure you have questions but I wanted to keep this short and find
>>>> out if it's even worth mentioning. I have digital 3D models, drawings, 3D
>>>> printed models, and quotes.
>>>> Please let me know what you think!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your time,
>>>> AlNoel S.
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