HI! I really want to build this for this years burn. Do you have any pics of your yurt inside and out. Im not sure I follow the framing that's been talked about.
cheers! J On Tuesday, September 8, 2015 at 2:00:48 PM UTC-7, Steve Upstill (Swifty) wrote: > > Well, I got my "Aztec" square yurt up to the Playa and back. Because I > took almost no pictures I didn't get one of the structure, but someone took > a marker and scribbled "Best Shelter Design Award, BM 2015" on the outside. > > I do have a few observations: > > * The interface with the ground was a problem. I thought I had a flat > site, but there were air gaps that admitted wind and dust (especially since > my tarp was only 12' wide to keep rain from leaking in), and also allowed > the walls to bend in and out alarmingly, esp. in the wind. I dealt with it > by raking playa a few inches high at bottom, but I still got plenty of dust > intrusion. > > * Dealing with the zipties was a pain, since drilling the holes left them > so rough that moving the ties around--especially cinching them up--was a > problem. In future I'll try to minimize the problem by putting the ties > into one hole before putting the structure up. > > * The door side was fairly fragile, and as the week wore on, the gap > between the door pieces opened up. > > * In the highest winds I feared for the survival of the 1" walls. > > * Speaking of the door, it was difficult to keep it from blowing open when > inside (when I was outside I just blocked it with a gallon water jug). > > * Decoration note: my shelter-mate scared up a piece of carpet to lie in > the space between the beds. It made all the difference in dust control and > general home-iness. > > * The roof turbine was great. I had in mind an elaborate system to control > airflow, but I just wound up attaching a handle to the plywood circle from > cutting out the hole and jammiing it up there as needed. Anything more > would have been wasted. > > * My swamp cooler failed (long story) but the shelter was habitable day > and night, albeit a tad stuffy in hot weather and pretty chilly on the > coldest nights. > > * Note: you CAN make a roof larger than 4' using just two pieces cut from > a single 4x8 sheet of plywood. I spent several sleepless hours figuring > this out, so contact me if you want the scheme. > > * I cut 1x2's to make a square that fits tightly into the walls at the > top, and screwed that onto the plywood. Makes nice seating at the top. > > * Not trusting bare plywood in the rain, and being suspicious that it > would heat up in the sun, I covered the top with Reflectix, stapling it to > the plywood edges and duct-taping it to the collar for the vent turbine. No > rain, but I'm very confident in it. > > For next year, here are a few things I'll do: > > * Dig a trench a couple of inches deep for the walls, such that the tarp > goes into the trench but not out the other side. That should help with the > structure of the walls and the wind, as well as providing a surface for the > walls to clamp down to. > > * Run a wire from pipe to pipe across the bottom of the door wall, to keep > it from spreading. > > * Rig a loop of tape or cord at the inside top of the door and hang a > weight (a boot?) from it to keep the door closed when you're inside. > > * Find some not-quite-so-cheap air filters. Mine were just generic Home > Depot filters, and during the dust storms I could literally see dust > blowing in. This happened with my prior hexayurts too, but I never seem to > remember it until I'm up there. > > * I don't know what the standard scheme is for dealing with stacking, but > I made a perfect rectangular 8' x 4' x 8" stack by hinging the triangles to > the walls. On each wall, one triangle hinges "in" and the other hinges > "out". Two walls have them going one way (left "in", right "out") and two > the other (right "in", left "out"). One wall has one triangle > detached--taped onsite--so it will be lie on the top without an odd > triangle. Stick the loose triangle to mate with the odd one on the bottom > and you're away! > > So, Alex, thanks for an inspired design! I've got my shelter for the next > few years. > > Cheers, > Steve > > On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 7:15 AM, Bobby Ray <catrue...@gmail.com > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> HI Steve, >> >> I would love to see some pictures and any modifications that you did to >> the original design. >> >> Thanks in advance. >> Bobby Ray 951-764-1335 who will soon be making a trip from Hemet >> California to Kansas City and back >> (going to pick up my van that died there.) I welcome invitations to >> visit and photograph your projects. >> >> Next trip is from Hemet in Southern California to South Florida then >> staying for an unknown length of time >> and returning. >> >> I welcome travel companions and I am looking for someone in KC area that >> wants a "free" ride to California . >> to share the driving. >> >> I travel with tools, glad to help with projects. I always have a camera, >> chess set and now that I am ' >> learning bridge ... a few decks of cards. I love the simplicity of >> yurts, hexayurts and domes have fascinated >> me for decades. >> >> On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 5:52 AM, Steve Upstill <ups...@gmail.com >> <javascript:>> wrote: >> >>> Almost done with the panels. Just have to punch out the tape for the >>> drill holes and do the hinges. >>> >>> You think YOU'RE psyched! >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 18, 2015, 1:08 AM Lucas González <lucas.go...@gmail.com >>> <javascript:>> wrote: >>> >>>> Photos useable in wikipages would be extra nice. Thanks! >>>> El 18/08/2015 01:15, "Alex Gorbatchev" <alex.go...@gmail.com >>>> <javascript:>> escribió: >>>> >>>>> Steve, >>>>> >>>>> I didn't add any dust filters to the turbine hole, I figured if >>>>> there's wind it will be sucking air out due to "negative" pressure. >>>>> >>>>> I cut out a square opening for the turbine, treated the edges with >>>>> foil tape. I kept the cut out piece and also treated the edges in case >>>>> there's a need to plug the whole. >>>>> >>>>> The turbine base was simply taped to the top of the panel. I used a >>>>> couple of wood screws in a few places where it was possible. >>>>> >>>>> I'm super excited to see somebody actually building this :) Are you >>>>> done with the panels already? >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 2:48 PM Steve Upstill <ups...@gmail.com >>>>> <javascript:>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Alex, >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm in mid-construction on my version of your "Aztec". One question >>>>>> re: ventilation. Did you just leave the hole to the turbine open, or did >>>>>> you fill it with some kind of filtering material in the event of >>>>>> backflow? >>>>>> Also, did you build something to block the flow to the turbine (for >>>>>> pretty >>>>>> much the same reason)? >>>>>> >>>>>> PS I'll be camping with Aquazone at 3:00 and F this year. Come say hi >>>>>> and see my version! >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Steve "Swifty" Upstill >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 6:14 PM, Alex Gorbatchev < >>>>>> alex.go...@gmail.com <javascript:>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> For the roof I made an L shaped frame out of 1x3 wood I believe and >>>>>>> put a 4x4 panel in the frame. I the taped up the seams with foil tape. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The frame acted and the rigid structure for the panels to lean on >>>>>>> and hold the shape. Because the pipes were actually leaning on the >>>>>>> frame, >>>>>>> there was practically no pressure downward on the panels themselves. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The yurt itself stood up very well to the Monday rain. Unfortunately >>>>>>> I placed the matt on the ground flat and so bunch of water sipped under >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> panels, but that wasn't the yurt issue. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The best part is the wind vent. The stronger was wind outside, the >>>>>>> more airflow there was throw the air filters and out of the yurt, >>>>>>> essentially sucking the dust out and cleaning the air inside. I enjoyed >>>>>>> this very much, it was an experiment that worked out very well imo. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 18, 2015, 15:07 Chita Jing <chita...@gmail.com >>>>>>> <javascript:>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Our messages crossed each other. 1/2" EMT is indeed easy to find >>>>>>>> and drill, cut, etc. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> How easy was this construction to keep dry? Any closeups of the >>>>>>>> roof? Especially where it meets the walls, please. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 18, 2015 at 3:05 PM, Alex Gorbatchev < >>>>>>>> alex.go...@gmail.com <javascript:>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Oops, sorry, that was the wrong link and you fellas totally right, >>>>>>>>> there isn't 1/4 EMT, it was 1/2" EMT and 1" panels >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://m.homedepot.com/p/Allied-Tube-Conduit-1-2-in-EMT-Conduit-101543/100400405 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 18, 2015, 15:03 Alex Gorbatchev <alex.go...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>> <javascript:>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sorry for the delay, I'm traveling ATM... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The triangle's are 8x4 panels cut diagonally, so each side takes >>>>>>>>>> 2 panels. This makes each side 12 feet long, for total of 144 sqft. >>>>>>>>>> This is >>>>>>>>>> a bit smaller than similarly sized hexayurt, but more practical imo >>>>>>>>>> because >>>>>>>>>> the space is square in shape. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Here's the 1/4" EMT pile >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://m.homedepot.com/p/Allied-Tube-Conduit-1-1-4-in-EMT-Conduit-101576/100400410 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I chose this size because its thinner than the 1/2" panel. So >>>>>>>>>> when you cut out a small triangular groove on the side of the panel, >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> 1/4 fits in very snuggly. Then using the 6" tape you get about two >>>>>>>>>> inches >>>>>>>>>> of grip on the panel on each side and this holds the EMT pipe very >>>>>>>>>> well. I >>>>>>>>>> the covered the bifilament tape that would be exposed to the sun >>>>>>>>>> with 3" >>>>>>>>>> aluminum foil. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sorry, I'm still trying to dig out my original 3d sketch for the >>>>>>>>>> yurt. I'll follow up when I do. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Please ask more questions, I'm happy to answer :) very surprised >>>>>>>>>> to see this much interest in this design. People were pretty >>>>>>>>>> dismissive of >>>>>>>>>> it when I was originally posting the sketches :) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jul 18, 2015, 14:54 Steve Upstill <ups...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>> <javascript:>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Just a clarification, please: I don't see how you can construct >>>>>>>>>>> this out of 9 4x8 sheets. Each face uses one sheet whole, and two >>>>>>>>>>> 2x8 right >>>>>>>>>>> triangles. To get eight 2x8 right triangles don't you need two >>>>>>>>>>> whole panels? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ...and 1/4" EMT pipe? Really? 1/2" is the smallest I can find. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>> Steve Upstill >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 2:49 PM, Alex Gorbatchev < >>>>>>>>>>> alex.go...@gmail.com <javascript:>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hey friends! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Want to share my shelter / "hexayurt" from Burning Man 2014. >>>>>>>>>>>> This was made from 9 standard 8x4' RMax 1" panels with a custom >>>>>>>>>>>> roof and a >>>>>>>>>>>> wind mill exhaust. I added 1/4 EMT pipe to each vertical panel >>>>>>>>>>>> edge and >>>>>>>>>>>> connected all panels with heavy duty zip ties which made assembly >>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>> disassembly possible in 10-15 minutes. It's about 7.5' tall in the >>>>>>>>>>>> middle >>>>>>>>>>>> and 12x12' wide. Comfortably held a queen size air bed, small >>>>>>>>>>>> table with >>>>>>>>>>>> two benches 4 crates with clothing. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The windmill worked amazingly well. During stronger winds and >>>>>>>>>>>> dust gusts it was actually sucking out more dust from inside the >>>>>>>>>>>> yurt and >>>>>>>>>>>> kept the place even cleaner. 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