I did a similar build last year with 1" boards and never had any problems with wind and leaking. check it out here! thanks for this inspiration.
http://imgur.com/a/mj6K1 J On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Alex Gorbatchev <alex.gorbatc...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hey Steve! > > You are my hero :) Thank you so much for all the updates, it's really > inspiring to see you using my design. Every problem you mentioned I can > confirm personally. The flapping walls in strong winds and the weak front > door panel. After 3 burns, I sold my yurt this year due to storage space > issues. > > > I'll mount velcro 6" up the yurt walls and on the edges of the tarp. > > Not sure if I understand you correctly, but keep in mind that you can't > reliably glue anything to the surface of the RMax panels if the tension is > going to be away from the surface. The velcro tape will just come off with > the silver paper. > > I ended up simply folding the tarp along the insides of the walls without > attaching it all together... it's not "pretty", but it works for the > purpose of not letting water inside. > > If you want to solve the flapping walls issues, I was going to add a few > eyelets to the end of the pipes and stake them down into the ground. > > On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 8:51 AM Steve Upstill <upst...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I'll post some pictures when I'm staging it later (I'm miserable about >> taking pictures on-Playa). >> >> For securing the pyramid, I have rope loops attached to the plywood roof. >> On the ground, I use 10" lag screws with a washer and two links of chain. >> In between, basic Home Depot ratchet straps. With the corner edges of the >> structure are reinforced with EMT pipe, that REALLY holds it down. >> >> I use 1" foam because I wanted to make a smaller package for transport. >> Having used 1-1/2" in the past on a hexayurt, I can say that it would be >> plenty strong for this use. 50% bigger package though. >> >> As for stability from the tarp, I'm very confident in the shear strength >> of the velcro. (I use it for "wrapping" around the corners, and last year, >> just taking it apart caused significant damage to the yurt) >> What I'm more worried about is the strength of the foil on the panels. >> The manufacturer doesn't pay any attention to the durability of the bond of >> foil-on-foam. I may resort to laying a strip of flashing metal down for >> reinforcement. (I don't want to get involved with nuts and bolts b/c I want >> flat panels for stacking.) >> >> On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 12:02 AM Bobby Ray <catruefri...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Thanks for asking for questions .... I would love to see some updated >>> pix. >>> >>> How did you secure the pyramid so that the winds did not blow it away. >>> >>> You mentioned 1 inch foam not being strong enough ... is 1.5 inches >>> strong enough? >>> Would a 6 inch wide perimeter strip give the required stability? Maybe >>> the tarp can be >>> pinched between the reinforcing perimeter strip? Maybe two reinforcing >>> perimeter strips - >>> one inside and one out side 4 inch bolts and large fender washers used >>> for attaching and >>> spacing the bolts to go through the grommets of your tarp? >>> >>> Bobby Ray who who yearns to make it to Burning Man. 951-764-1335 >>> <(951)%20764-1335> >>> >>> On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 1:55 PM, Steve Upstill <upst...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Re the pyramid hexayurt: this will be my third year with this design, >>>> and I think I've solved a couple of problems. >>>> >>>> Problem The First: sealing the bottom. First year I just lay the base >>>> on a tarp, and got light, wind and dust coming in the bottom. Second year I >>>> tried trenching the walls and keeping the tarp inside, velcroing it to the >>>> insides of the walls. Result: it was a huge pain doing the trenching in >>>> such a way that the walls hit flat on the bottom. >>>> >>>> Problem The Second: with 1" walls, this design is a tad floppy in a >>>> high wind. There was one several-hour period when I wasn't sure the thing >>>> would survive. Plus, movement of the bottoms of the walls near their >>>> centers makes it nearly impossible to seal the bottom (see Problem The >>>> First). >>>> >>>> Problem The Third: the arch shape of the front wall with the door cut >>>> out is VERY fragile. I had to do a field repair last year, and consider >>>> myself lucky to have made it back. I'm rebuilding the front wall today. >>>> >>>> Problem The Fourth: (related to #3), the front wall tends to splay >>>> corner-to-corner, further reducing the strength of the wall and killing >>>> your door seal. >>>> >>>> Okay, so now you know the context, here's my solution to all four >>>> problems (trying it this year; results to follow). The main thing is >>>> handling the tarp. I'm going to cut a tarp 6" wider on all sides than the >>>> yurt. I'll mount velcro 6" up the yurt walls and on the edges of the tarp. >>>> In situ, I'll fold the tarp up and velcro it into place, "wrapping" the >>>> base of the yurt. This will eliminate the sealing problem *and also >>>> the structural problems*, since it will keep the four walls from >>>> poofing outward and hold the front wall from splaying. >>>> >>>> How does that work at the front wall? Easy: instead of the single >>>> "bridge" above the door, I'm going to cut the door leaving solid wall >>>> across top *and *bottom; the bottom bit will secure the tarp there. >>>> >>>> Codicil the first: I'm also going to strength both of those "bridges" >>>> by gluing thin flashing steel straight across (inside and out) >>>> >>>> Codicil the second: to keep the rain completely out, i'll glue a flap >>>> of silver mylar just above the tarp, overlapping it. >>>> >>>> Any questions? >>>> >>>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 11:58 PM Bobby Ray <catruefri...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Alex, >>>>> >>>>> I am interested. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Bobby Ray >>>>> 951-764-1335 <(951)%20764-1335> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 3:22 PM, Alex Gorbatchev < >>>>> alex.gorbatc...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/for/6016890618.html >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 2:58 PM Alex Gorbatchev < >>>>>> alex.gorbatc...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Friends, here are a few more photos from 2016. This yurt has >>>>>>> successfully survived 3 burns now with zero alterations from or fix ups >>>>>>> from the original date of assembly. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm selling the yurt now (Oakland, CA) because I no longer have >>>>>>> space to keep it and am switching up to a shelter that is easier to >>>>>>> store >>>>>>> in an apartment. If you are interested in this yurt, please reach out >>>>>>> to me. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Friday, June 26, 2015 at 2:49:51 PM UTC-7, Alex Gorbatchev wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hey friends! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Want to share my shelter / "hexayurt" from Burning Man 2014. This >>>>>>> was made from 9 standard 8x4' RMax 1" panels with a custom roof and a >>>>>>> wind >>>>>>> mill exhaust. I added 1/4 EMT pipe to each vertical panel edge and >>>>>>> connected all panels with heavy duty zip ties which made assembly and >>>>>>> disassembly possible in 10-15 minutes. It's about 7.5' tall in the >>>>>>> middle >>>>>>> and 12x12' wide. Comfortably held a queen size air bed, small table with >>>>>>> two benches 4 crates with clothing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The windmill worked amazingly well. During stronger winds and dust >>>>>>> gusts it was actually sucking out more dust from inside the yurt and >>>>>>> kept >>>>>>> the place even cleaner. 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