On Fri, 11 Jan 2019 at 14:00, Steve Ebersole <st...@hibernate.org> wrote:
>
> Guillaume - I added a general start-a-discussion comment to the PR.  
> Hopefully anyone with an opinion on that can chime in there.  Beyond that, +1
>
>
> Sanne - ok, I see.  You are not expecting users to have to deal with 
> wrapping/scrolling because you limit the presented information to an 
> arbitrary set of values.  That's certainly an option.  My only caution there 
> is that this is an arbitrary list of values-of-interest.
>
> We all agree version is important.  It is beyond that that we start to have 
> different preferences.  I think everything beyond that is DEBUG-level info.  
> For any additional values, I worry about the arbitrary nature of what we 
> present and don't in this message.  I mean to me, the same argument that 
> leads to "caching enabled/disabled" being important enough to list also 
> dictates that CDI integration is important enough too.  Same for 
> BytecodeProvider, ConnectionProvider, ...  Its this question of where we draw 
> the line that concerns me.  And if we are drawing an arbitrary line, why are 
> we drawing that line at all?

Yeah it's arbitrary. When I proposed it I thought with some luck we
might have a quick consensus; if not let's just stick to the version.

> I'll eagerly await your discussion about enabling caching by default ;)

Let's face that in front of some great food in Rome :)

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