Because the there may be serveral class loaders associated with a deployment. I'm missing the exact context of this discussion and how it correlates with the entity manager spi. Has there been a definition of what the tcl must be for the entity manager spi lifecycle? I don't see it browsing through the current ejb3 spec.
-----Original Message----- From: Max Andersen Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 3:09 PM To: Scott M Stark; Emmanuel Bernard; Bill Burke Cc: Hibernate development Subject: Re: [Hibernate] ClassLoader injection hi, Why is the tcl not the right one even when generating classes ? if we don't use the same how can you have consistent resource loading, annotation searching and code invocation ? /max > The general problem is that the thread context class loader can be too > generic when you have a mesh of class loaders. As is mentioned in latter > replies in this thread, if classes from a given package namespace have > already been loaded via one class loader, generally all subsequent > classes in the same package should be loaded/defined using the same > class loader. Not doing so will lead to security and type consistency > problems. > > In the case of the ejb3 entity manager spi, it does make sense that you > would ask it for the correct class loader for byte code manipulation vs > a class loader to query for resources and do annotation searching. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Max Andersen > Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 11:53 PM > To: Emmanuel Bernard; Bill Burke > Cc: Hibernate development; Scott M Stark > Subject: Re: [Hibernate] ClassLoader injection > > Hi, > > to bill, yes I know ctx current thread is the only way, that was my > whole > point (using ctx current thread in > hibernate was actually the first patch i provided to hibernate core ;) > > and yes, having a third classloader concept in the spec sounds like a > very > broken thing. > I would love to hear why it is needed. > > /max > >> The RI team is going to creak, but I'm inclined to remove it as well. >> >> AS for your first remark, what's wrong with doing getResource with the > >> regular classloader? I don't get it. >> >> >> Bill Burke wrote: >>> I understand the need for PUInfo.getNewTempClassLoader() as >>> getResource("META-INF/persistence.xml") may/will return multiples. >>> Also, you may want to introspect the class for annotations before you > >>> decide what needs to be bytecode massaged. >>> >>> As for getClassLoader()? I'm not sure of the reasoning. I know > Scott >>> has some spec input on this. Maybe we should get it removed? >>> >>> Emmanuel Bernard wrote: >>>> Year I'm aware of that Bill :-) >>>> But in this case, and like Max said, why on earth the >>>> PersistenceUnitInfo has a getClassLoader() method instead of using > the >>>> context CL? >>>> >>>> >>>> Bill Burke wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Max Rydahl Andersen wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> If it is for the spec then I would argue that the spec is very > wrong >>>>>> since it will >>>>>> break all other kind of stuff. Like how will you convince all the > >>>>>> external libraries hibernate >>>>>> uses to use your "magic" classloader ? (e.g. log4j, dom4j, cglib, > >>>>>> yada, yada) >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thread.getContextCL() is the only way. If a library doesn't use >>>>> Thread.getCCL() then it is a poorly written library. App server > and >>>>> J2EE in general require this because of classloader isolation > (scoped >>>>> ears or wars). If you are within Hibernate code and call >>>>> Class.forName() it will use the classloader that loaded Hibernate > to >>>>> load the class. (read the javadocs) and you could get CCE, CNF >>>>> exceptions. If you already know this, then apologies. >>>>> >>>>> The same issues effect the loading of resources. >>>>> >>>>> Bill >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> > > > -- -- Max Rydahl Andersen callto://max.rydahl.andersen Hibernate [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hibernate.org JBoss Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid3432&bid#0486&dat1642 _______________________________________________ hibernate-devel mailing list hibernate-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hibernate-devel