On 09/02/2014 10:22 AM, [email protected] wrote:
Hello,

I am sorry for the late response...

 >>
 >>> (3) Continuing to support the 1536 MODP DHE group but not
 >>> supporting the 2048 equivalent seems a bit odd, as does not having
 >>> a code point for the 4096 but group. Similarly, making the 1536 bit
 >>> group the MTI (in 5.2.7) is odd as is the assertion that "web
 >>> surfing" can use a lower security level.
 >>
 >> I am not aware of the criteria that were used for choosing the DHE
 >> groups. Can someone else comment on this?
 >
 > I don't recall offhand, other than that we went through a round of
 > review with CFRG back in 2012 and we ended up modifying our crypto
 > selections based on the feedback received.  Bob and Tobias have been the
 > caretakers of the crypto selections in HIPv2 in general, so I defer to
 > them.

Ok, so let's wait to hear from Bob/Tobias on this one.

I tried to reconstruct the approach that we took from the mailing list
archives. This dates back to 2010 so I don't remember every detail. We
use established algorithms that similar protocols used and discussed the
choices here on the list. Here is the discussion thread:

http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/hipsec/current/msg03327.html

There was some counseling from CFRG as well if I am not mistaken.
However, if there is the need for a different set of algorithms or if
there is consensus that more algorithms are required, there is no reason
not to add another one.

How could we move this issue forward? Stephen, would you advocate putting in 2048-bit and 4096-bit groups (perhaps with values 11 and 12 respectively)? Or is there not enough support for this proposal?


The sentence with the web-surfing is a carry over from RFC5201. I think
we should change it to a more generic statement along the lines of the
mailing list post from 2010:

Group 10 is meant for devices with low computation capabilities and
should be used only if long-term
confidentiality is not required.

I'll plan to put the above into the next revision, as it seems non-controversial.

- Tom

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