I forgot something.... The lack of programs has hurt the histology world over the years...I don't see anything wrong with OJT (after all, that's how I learned) as long as the histotechs doing the training are well qualified and can teach it properly...I think OJT should be brought back as a ROI for the exam... However: There is the issue with "the direction" histology has been moving in over the past 10+ years: i.e. ISH, FISH, SISH, etc, etc, etc.... This is where the degree would be a benefit to a person due to the theory side of it, but at the same time it still can be taught OJT just like me (at Ventana). Honestly, a degree doesn't always mean that a person will make a good tech. After all, it's only a piece of paper...it's whether or not a tech can take that degree and apply it...
Again, my 2 cents worth ~Kim Tournear~ HT (ASCP), QIHC (ASCP) Histology Supervisor Tucson Medical Center Tucson, AZ ~Don't let your life end before it begins~ OU Rocks!!!! --- On Mon, 2/16/09, Bernice Frederick <b-freder...@northwestern.edu> wrote: From: Bernice Frederick <b-freder...@northwestern.edu> Subject: RE: [Histonet] uncertified techs in Histology To: "'Martin, Gary'" <gmar...@marshallmedical.org>, histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Date: Monday, February 16, 2009, 7:30 AM So take the registry exam!!!! Bernice Frederick HTL (ASCP) Northwestern University Pathology Core Facility ECOGPCO-RL 710 N Fairbanks Court Olson 8-421 Chicago,IL 60611 312-503-3723 -----Original Message----- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Martin, Gary Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 11:27 AM To: Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: RE: [Histonet] uncertified techs in Histology I am one of those "unregistered" techs. I would respectfully hope that we are not considered the villains here. My situation is; we are a small lab in a rural area that has the need for 1 1/2 Histo Techs. We were having a very difficult time attracting a 1/2 time "qualified tech.", and had zero backup for our one and only full time "qualified tech." I have a good back ground in detail work in the art world and a good amount of experience as a pathology lab assistant. So it was easy for me to transition into the role of "unregistered tech", thereby providing back for our over work Histo tech. I have been trained by my Histo tech and have completed the Freida L. Carson self instruction course under her supervision. We are happy with the results and our Pathologist are pleased. At this point (7 years into teching) there are some things that I have been innovative on some things, and our tech prefers me to do other things. I would love to get certified but the changes in OTJ have made that more of a mountain than I can climb at this time. I would like to lend voice to us who are in this situation and say the we take our duties very serious and I really don't look at my job as getting over on rules or quality or providing cheap labor. In our case it has been necessity. Thank you Gary -----Original Message----- From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Watson, Linda Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 8:34 AM To: Mary Abosso; Steven Coakley; Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu Subject: RE: [Histonet] uncertified techs in Histology I totally agree with Mary. I have often heard that histotechs are a dying breed. That us "old timers" are not being replaced by the younger generation. If we want to have less uncertified histotechs then lets not make it so difficult for individuals to pursue this wonderful career. I still think it is very important for the exam to remain in place but those individuals out of high school that are maybe not thinking of attending college to obtain a bachelors degree should have the opportunity to become a certified histologist. I know that you can still obtain the HT but not the HTL. Correct me if I am wrong. Linda >-----Original Message----- >From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu [mailto:histonet- >boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Mary Abosso >Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 11:19 AM >To: Steven Coakley; Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu >Subject: RE: [Histonet] uncertified techs in Histology > >Many areas have to go to unregistered techs out of necessity due to the >high vacancy rate in our field since the ASCP made changes to the career >path for the HT board requirements. Many of these facilities have >either formal or informal training and have turned out many very good, >high quality techs. Yes, some may be skilled at the "art" of histology, >but lack the understanding that is behind the science. These often can >embed, cut and do special stains with superior quality and happy >pathologists. I have seen registered techs that have all the >intelligence that their sheepskins say, but totally lack the hands on >skills needed to produce superior quality material for patient >diagnosis. While this is only my opinion, I wish that there was still >the route for OJT as long as there is a certified tech in place for >training. > >My two cents worth, >Mary Abosso > >________________________________ > >From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu on behalf of Steven >Coakley >Sent: Wed 2/11/2009 7:55 AM >To: Histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu >Subject: [Histonet] uncertified techs in Histology > > > >Any thoughts or experiences with my fellow HT/HTL's(ASCP). What the big >advantage do all these facilities think there gaining by going with >unregistered techs, especially when theres always ongoing quality issues >when theres so many trained certified HT looking for work? 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