Actually, as long as they meet the standards for High Complexity testing they 
can gross.......according to CAP you have to have no knowledge of anatomy to 
process.....

Roxanne


-----Original Message-----
From: Histonet Alias <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Sent: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 1:40 pm
Subject: Re: [Histonet] grossing


This is another famous gray area that CAP has left us. Are your techs grossing 
or processing? We split up specimens between processing and grossing. A PA will 
to the grossing and a technician will do the processing. We have a PA or Path 
on call for any questions in the evening. If the tech is unsure then the PA or 
Path comes in or leaves it until the next day.?

ANP.11600
1. Processing is defined as a tissue examination limited to description,
inking and cutting of the specimen (if applicable), and submission of
the entire specimen to histology.  Tissue processing can be performed
according to standardized protocols.  Processing is generally limited to
small specimens (skin, small biopsies, curettings, etc.) and does not
require knowledge of anatomy.
2.  Grossing (or gross examination) is defined as a tissue examination
requiring a greater exercise of judgment and a knowledge of anatomy.
Dissection of the specimen and selection of tissue samples for
submission to histology are generally required.  The specimen
description is not necessarily standardized.


On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 12:11 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

Processing, according to CAP? :

"tissue examination limited to description, inking and cutting of the specimen, 
and submission og the entire specimen to histology.? Tissue processing can be 
performed accodring to standardized protocols.? Processing is generally limited 
to small specimens and does not require knowledge of anatomy."

This is right from the CAP checklist (ANP.11600)

Roxanne






-----Original Message-----
From: Histonet Alias <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Sent: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 11:13 am
Subject: Re: [Histonet] grossing



Define presence? If they are able to have access a technical supervisor or a 
Pathologist if they have a question then this may just cover it. We have a 
Pathologist "on call" that can be in within minutes if there are any questions.?


On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 10:55 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:

I hate to beat a dead horse.....but how do you handle non-certified grossing 
staff.? They all meet the CLIA guidelines, but are they allowed to gross in the 
evening without the presence of a technical supervisor?

And how do you handle salaries for those that process and those that 
gross......according to the CAP guidelines?


Thanks,
Roxanne

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