We have processed and stained these types of samples before.  We do not embed 
the pellets in agarose prior to processing.  We dye them with eosin and place 
them in a tea bag and process on a very short cycle - 10 minutes per station, 
embed section and stain.  We have stained with safranin O, alcian blue, 
toluidine blue and IHC for collagen II.  The safranin O comes out just fine as 
well as the others. We just receive the samples so I do not know anything about 
the preparation, collection and fixation.  It possibly could be your construct, 
we have processed hundreds of these samples and the staining intensity and 
patterns do change.  I expect this is due to the type of preparation.  If you 
want to see pictures of the staining, you can go to this website:

http://bioreagents.lifemapsc.com/products/purestem-chondropkg-4d20-8

or this paper:

Sternberg H, Murai JT, Erickson IE, Funk WD, Das S, Wang Q, Snyder E, Chapman 
KB, Vangsness CT Jr, West MD. 2012 A human embryonic stem cell-derived clonal 
progenitor cell line with chondrogenic potential and markers of craniofacial 
mesenchyme. Regen Med. 7(4):481-501

Liz

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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Victor Wong 
[vhlw...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 12:35 AM
To: Tony Henwood (SCHN); histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: Re: [Histonet] Safranin O staining

Dear Tony,

Thank you for your prompt reply and the paper.

I do fix the cell before processing in agarose and after embedding in agarose.

It is inevitable to process in wax at higher than 45C as it is set by the 
routine workers.

It is the first time I worked on cell block precessing.  Do you have protocol 
of processing chondrogenic pellet by tissue processor?  Any adjustment to my 
procesing and staining protocol?

I tried to stain the pH1.0 alcian blue for 45 minutes and overnght but 
unremarkable staining (faint staining) was observed.  Do you think 
glycosaminoglycans secreted by chondrogenic pellet can be destroyed by heat?
Best Regards,
Victor


From: Tony Henwood (SCHN) <tony.henw...@health.nsw.gov.au>
To: 'Victor Wong' <vhlw...@yahoo.com>; "histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu" 
<histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu>
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2013 11:45 AM
Subject: RE: [Histonet] Safranin O staining

Victor,

Heat can affect the way tissues and cells bind to dyes. I have attached an 
article that hints at some of these problems (Allison, R. T. and Bryant, D. 
(1998)'Effects of Processing at 45 C on Staining', Biotechnic and 
Histochemistry 73:3,128 -136).

I have also found that some antigens are adversely affected by heat. CEA 
immunohistochemistry was decreased in cytology cell blocks made with molten 
agar compared to cell blocks made with fibrin clot. In both cases cell blocks 
were fixed in NBF after being made. Formalin seemed to protect the antigens in 
fibrin clots from subsequent heat damage during processing, whereas with agar 
cell blocks, the heat damage was already done.

Regards
Tony Henwood JP, MSc, BAppSc, GradDipSysAnalys, CT(ASC), FFSc(RCPA)
Laboratory Manager & Senior Scientist
Tel: 612 9845 3306
Fax: 612 9845 3318
the children's hospital at westmead
Cnr Hawkesbury Road and Hainsworth Street, Westmead
Locked Bag 4001, Westmead NSW 2145, AUSTRALIA

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From: histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu 
[mailto:histonet-boun...@lists.utsouthwestern.edu] On Behalf Of Victor Wong
Sent: Monday, 18 February 2013 1:34 PM
To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
Subject: [Histonet] Safranin O staining

Hi all,

I am working on induced chondrogenesis in cell culture.  After, induction, I 
put the clump of cells (pellets) in 2% agarose to make a cell block.  When the 
pellet did not sink to the bottom of agarose, I heated to melt the agarose 
again and centrifuged with higher speed. I fix the agar block in 10% formalin 
for an hour and then transfer to 70% alcohol and proceeded with normal paraffin 
procedure.  I stained the paraffin sections with Sigma Safranin O stain but got 
very faint or no staining.  Here is my protocol:

1. Weigert Iron Hx for 2 min
2. Acid alcohol,Scott Tap and wash
3. 0.02% fast green for 2 min
4. 0.1% acetic acid for 1 min
5. Sigma's Safranin O for 5-10 min
6. 95% alcohol then 3x 100% alcohol @3 min 7. xylene and mount

I also tried to stain the sections with alcian blue pH1.0 and the staining was 
not quite remarkable.  I'd like to ask if repeated heating on embedded pellet 
affects staining as I wanted to make sure the pellet was at the bottom of 
agarose.  Are there other factors affect the staining. Any comments are 
welcomed.

Thanks you in advance.

Victor
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