We have discussed this on the histonet many times...
Most professions, and most if not all healthcare professions, require degrees
and/or certification for entry. This is how the public, other medical
professions ,and even HR-who do not know the technical- assess for our capacity
to provide care and judge the skill level needed of the profession as they are
"looking in". We all know that this isn't always perhaps the best method to
assess or measure some aspects of this profession, but this is what they work
from. There are good and bad examples of both OJT and educated, formally
trained histology professionals. However, "education" is more than learning
facts, it helps develop many other facets of the person that are viewed as
valuable to organizations. That is why it is used as a screening tool. Please
try to value the broader perspective. Technical proficiency itself is probably
not going to be enough as the future unfolds. Though it may seem unfair if you
have worked for a very long time and learned a great deal through experienc
e, the bottom line is that for some employers, some environments and outside
groups- education, credentials and professionalism are the primary criteria
they use to evaluate, and they pay and recognize accordingly.
Joelle Weaver MAOM, HTL (ASCP) QIHC
> From: timothy.mor...@ucsf.edu
> To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 17:28:15 +0000
> Subject: Re: [Histonet] OJT Histotechs/Training
>
> Mike, yes, the vast majority of histotechs have been, are, and will be OJT
> (me included). The people who take on training these people have a
> responsibility to do the best they can. Most techs end up learning whatever
> their lab does and so have limited knowledge. I studied a full year for the
> HT and passed fine, and later the HTL. In our small lab at the time we had a
> broad array of testing in histology (specials, muscle histochem, immunochem,
> electron microscopy), but I found out my true lack of knowledge when I went
> to Saudi Arabia and worked with techs from other countries where they had
> comprehensive bachelors-level programs required for ALL lab techs. Those from
> the US, all certificated, where vastly under-educated compared to techs from
> other countries. It was a bit embarrassing!
>
> Luckily we have online courses and degrees available now - not available in
> the 1980's when I started. That is a tremendous advantage to those who are
> willing to take advantage of it. Other than that it will be up to the lab
> management to be sure the OJT tech gets the basic instruction according to
> the requirements of the ASCP exam. That is the bare bones knowledge necessary
> to function. Even then the experience in the lab is key to whether the
> knowledge is just regurgitated or practiced. Lab management has a
> responsibility to be sure good lab practices are ingrained during training.
> It is a big job.
>
> As an aside, there are some people out there trying to break into histology
> but do not work in a histo lab, or work in a lab that does not support their
> desire to get certificated (which is practically criminal in my view). I
> talked to a person recently who is working in a histo lab but is trying to
> find a lab to do special stains they do not do in the lab they are working
> in. Their lab will not buy them the reagents necessary and actually told this
> person that they will not help them get certificated because they feel the
> person will move on to get better pay elsewhere.
>
> I agree with another thought expressed that finding a person excited about
> getting into histology can lead to a good tech. I had a person just show up
> cold one day saying he really wanted to work in the histo lab - he had
> learned some histology in a research lab and did not realize it could be a
> full time profession until he stumbled on our lab one day. He had a good
> background but we had no histo jobs open, but we happened to have a new
> grossing lab aid job opening and he managed to get that job. The expectation
> is that he will eventually work his way into histology. He's happy to have
> his foot in the door, and we are happy to have an enthusiastic person with a
> plan for advancement.
>
> Tim Morken
> Pathology Site Manager, Parnassus
> Supervisor, Electron Microscopy/Neuromuscular Special Studies
> Department of Pathology
> UC San Francisco Medical Center
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dessoye, Michael [mailto:mjdess...@commonwealthhealth.net]
> Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 4:44 AM
> To: histonet@lists.utsouthwestern.edu
> Subject: [Histonet] OJT Histotechs/Training
>
> Hello Histonet,
>
> I'm curious how people are dealing with on-the-job-trained histotechs. Many
> people are seeing a shortage in techs, and in my opinion OJT will become more
> common than it already is. Does anyone have an 'official' training program?
> Requirements to pass the exam? Qualifications to be able to be trained
> on-the-job? I'd like to consider having some kind of plan in place when I
> don't have an HT/HTL applicant but have folks who, if they get the
> experience, are otherwise qualified to sit for the exam. If anyone has a
> similar situation or experience to share I would appreciate it!
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
> Michael J. Dessoye, M.S. | Histology/Toxicology/RIA Supervisor | Wilkes-Barre
> General Hospital | An Affiliate of Commonwealth Health |
> mjdess...@commonwealthhealth.net<mailto:mjdess...@commonwealthhealth.net> |
> 575 N. River Street | Wilkes Barre, PA 18764 | Tel: 570-552-1432 | Fax:
> 570-552-1486
>
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