And what exacly you cannot achieve with HiveMind
interceptors? Why do you need/want a full AOP system?

Speaking of AspectWerkz - it has merged with AspectJ.
AspectJ - they actually regained sanity after the
merger and now we do not have to use altered Java
syntax (but need JVM 5). See
http://www.eclipse.org/aspectj/doc/next/adk15notebook/ataspectj.html


I have couple of comparisons between various AOP
frameworks and you can see them here:
http://kgionline.com/presentations/aop_test/overview/doc/index.html
 - work in progress, some links do no work;
and here:
http://kgionline.com/articles/aop_1/aop_perf.jsp


--- linuja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> With javassist, you can implement one very easy
> yourself.
> also, you can use the *Fab class of hivemind
> directly.
> 
> 2005/7/26, Vinicius Carvalho
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > 
> > Well it's me again (I guess ppl may be getting
> tired of my questions)
> > 
> > Ok. I probably said this before, but I'm trying to
> create a pure
> > hivemind project (no springs attached :D), I have
> nothing against
> > Spring, on the opposite, I like it pretty much, I
> just don't see why
> > use spring for some pieces that Hivemind +
> HiveUtils could easily get
> > pretty well.
> > 
> > Ok, so I get in a real hard decision. Using AOP
> with spring means, all
> > my beans must be managed by it, which they aren't
> anymore :D.
> > 
> > I tried Interceptors ... well I really would like
> to have a pattern
> > for my methods, not apply it to all o 'em. I've
> checked out Jean's
> > TransactionInterceptorFactory source code, and
> found that would take a
> > pretty long way to do the same for my
> interceptors.
> > 
> > Ok, so we've few choices left:
> > 
> > AspectWerkz: I really like it, non intrusive in
> one aspect (uses
> > proxies) but you gotta change your classloader,
> hum.. my tomcat turned
> > just 300% slower with the new classloader. Out of
> question.
> > 
> > JBoss AOP: I'm a Tomcat user, I really get as far
> away from JBoss and
> > EJB stuff as I can.
> > 
> > AspectJ: Nice, fast, but too intrusive, and you
> can't debug your code 
> > anymore.
> > 
> > I was wondering if someone who've been using AOP
> with Hivemind in a
> > project would care to share it's experiences /
> opinions ?
> > 
> > Regards
> > 
> >
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