Hey Konstantin, your page Rocks dude, I've seen your comparisons
before, excellent work, really nice! It was good to see some
comparisons between the many AOP approaches around, I really took your
advices when choosing one :D

Well what I was wondering about interceptors is that after defining an
interceptor I can't tell which method to apply it. I've seen you
examples : "HiveMindInstrumenter" and also the Interceptor from
HiveUtils. I didn't get a chance to see your code, but I guess you
must threat the pattern as well.

The problem is, my developer team should take care of that all the
time, so I'm more error prone than with regular aspects where I could
have full control of pointcuts through xml. Of course It's just
wondering... I haven't had the time to test it :P

Thanks again

On 7/28/05, Konstantin Ignatyev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And what exacly you cannot achieve with HiveMind
> interceptors? Why do you need/want a full AOP system?
> 
> Speaking of AspectWerkz - it has merged with AspectJ.
> AspectJ - they actually regained sanity after the
> merger and now we do not have to use altered Java
> syntax (but need JVM 5). See
> http://www.eclipse.org/aspectj/doc/next/adk15notebook/ataspectj.html
> 
> 
> I have couple of comparisons between various AOP
> frameworks and you can see them here:
> http://kgionline.com/presentations/aop_test/overview/doc/index.html
>  - work in progress, some links do no work;
> and here:
> http://kgionline.com/articles/aop_1/aop_perf.jsp
> 
> 
> --- linuja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > With javassist, you can implement one very easy
> > yourself.
> > also, you can use the *Fab class of hivemind
> > directly.
> >
> > 2005/7/26, Vinicius Carvalho
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >
> > > Well it's me again (I guess ppl may be getting
> > tired of my questions)
> > >
> > > Ok. I probably said this before, but I'm trying to
> > create a pure
> > > hivemind project (no springs attached :D), I have
> > nothing against
> > > Spring, on the opposite, I like it pretty much, I
> > just don't see why
> > > use spring for some pieces that Hivemind +
> > HiveUtils could easily get
> > > pretty well.
> > >
> > > Ok, so I get in a real hard decision. Using AOP
> > with spring means, all
> > > my beans must be managed by it, which they aren't
> > anymore :D.
> > >
> > > I tried Interceptors ... well I really would like
> > to have a pattern
> > > for my methods, not apply it to all o 'em. I've
> > checked out Jean's
> > > TransactionInterceptorFactory source code, and
> > found that would take a
> > > pretty long way to do the same for my
> > interceptors.
> > >
> > > Ok, so we've few choices left:
> > >
> > > AspectWerkz: I really like it, non intrusive in
> > one aspect (uses
> > > proxies) but you gotta change your classloader,
> > hum.. my tomcat turned
> > > just 300% slower with the new classloader. Out of
> > question.
> > >
> > > JBoss AOP: I'm a Tomcat user, I really get as far
> > away from JBoss and
> > > EJB stuff as I can.
> > >
> > > AspectJ: Nice, fast, but too intrusive, and you
> > can't debug your code
> > > anymore.
> > >
> > > I was wondering if someone who've been using AOP
> > with Hivemind in a
> > > project would care to share it's experiences /
> > opinions ?
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > >
> >
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