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akum,
doing good things.....trying to correct other Islamic brothers
is NEVER a waste of time.....this is a kinda dakwah.....
i f u people dont wanna help us...then fine.....but dont tell us
to quit doin right things..... umno got 1 mil members....
u wont be able to get all of them into PAS.......but u can unite umno-pas
if u got the leaders replaced or corrected......only umno people can replace
umno leaders.......
--[ ORaNG MuDE ]--
----- Original Message -----
From: kita . <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: H-Net* RE: The Star:No one can object to
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> assalamualaikum,
>
> insyaAllah,
> if everybody join PAS, there will no more UMNO,
> UMNO will be a history. I think that is better,
> to join UMNO, is to waste your time.
>
> wassalam
>
>
> >From: "luqman ismael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >CC: "Hizbi-Net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: H-Net* RE: The Star:No one can object to
> >Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 00:26:23 +0800
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> >akum brothers,
> >
> >yes...i know Abu Jahal dont take orders from Nabi....and so
> >with Nabi.....but what i tried to show from the story is we should
> >not give up in doin good things....correcting UMNO in this case.....
> >and I wont join other party.....why?....have u ever read book
> >written by anti-Zionism.....if u havent i suggest u to read
> >International Jews...written by Henry Ford.....in this book...it 's
stated
> >clearly that democracy is a tool of the Jews......Jews created many
system
> >like democracy, liberalism, communism...but they never use them....
> >they created such system just to disunite the umat.........and it
> >seems that they managed to achieve that objective in our country......if
we
> >look back at
> >Muslim Empire....none of them practise democracy....instead they practise
> >syura....
> >....i dont want to help those bloody Jews in achieving their target in
> >disuniting the umat.....so the best way is to stick with
UMNO...correcting
> >them from inside...if we failed to bring improvement.......Madey will die
> >soon to....and people like us are going to replace them........
> >i have seen many people dying....but many of them recovered too.....by
> >correcting UMNO...the umat's unity will be
> >secured.........there's no point of joining another party just because
our
> >previous attempt to correct them failed.....
> >because if nobody wanna correct UMNO....UMNO and PAS will be against each
> >other forever...and this will
> >bring adverse effect to the umat.....we must think the unity of
umat....not
> >the party....
> >furthermore.....in doing good things...Allah wont see the fruit...but He
> >will see how we achieve it.....whether we do it
> >for the unity of umat.......ok...now we think if PAS won the
> >Parlimen....will the umat be unite again?....hell no....
> >UMNO will be the opposition and will still go against PAS.....umat will
> >never be united......(good news for Jews...huh..?)
> >that's why the umat need people like them....to improve UMNO......i dont
> >care
> >if none of the opposition
> >want to help them or not.....we are doing it because of the umat.....we
> >will
> >still try to do our best ..even if Madey wanna kill us
> >because of it....we dont wanna run from the problem......(like many of us
> >did)....
> >nabi...in one of his Hadis said this umat will be doomed if they r afraid
> >of
> >death.....we dont afraid of Madey.....
> >we will continue DSA vision.....no matter what happen...this is the best
> >solution for umat.....patah tumbuh hilang berganti....
> >--[ ORaNG MuDE ]--
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: luqman ismael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 4:13 PM
> >Subject: Re: H-Net* RE: The Star:No one can object to
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Dear Brother,
> > >
> > > The issue of trying to improve UMNO from within has been mentioned
many
> > > times B4.
> > > You mentioned a number of times about the relationship of Muhammad SAW
> >and
> > > Abu Jahal.
> > >
> > > There is a big difference though.
> > > Abu Jahal did not get order from Muhammad SAW.
> > > Muhammad Rasulullah did not get order from Abu Jahal.
> > > They were mutually exclusive, they worked independent from each other.
> > >
> > > Muhammad Rasulullah never strengthen Abu Jahal and Abu Jahal never
lent
> >his
> > > strength to Muhammad Rasulullah.
> > > They opposed to each other.
> > >
> > > The big problem here is when you are part of UMNO, inevitably, you
will
> > > support those who are seeking the destruction of Islam in a very
subtle
> > > way. You, as a grassroot supporter of that old man, will support him
by
> > > joining his party and lend support for all the moves that he is
making.
> > >
> > > The old man lives and prospers until today due to support by people
like
> > > you, don't you know that ?
> > >
> > > Muhammad Rasulullah did not do things like that. He maintained his
> >position
> > > despite fierce opposition from people like Abu Jahal. When the
Mushrikin
> > > wanted to compromise on matters pertaining faith, Muhammad Rasulullah
> > > responded with Al Kafirun, loud and clear.
> > >
> > > I beg you don't get into this illusion of improving UMNO from within.
> > > Join us, together we work towards a better living under the soon to be
> > > installed Islamic government.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "luqman
> > > ismael" To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > <luqmanz@time cc: "Hizbi-Net"
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > .net.my> Subject: Re: H-Net* RE:
The
> >Star:No one can
> > > Sent by: object to
> > > owner-hizb@hi
> > > zbi.net
> > >
> > >
> > > 10/27/00
> > > 01:10 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > > akum Sdr Najib,
> > >
> > > yes....i know some of the the leaders have negative mindset regarding
> > > islamic issues....but i dont believe if there's no one in UMNO
> > > is trying to achieve our DS Anwar visions........i know many people
> > > in Pemuda UMNO who are having the same vision as him......but they
> > > dont wanna give up.....they still wanna correct UMNO from inside....
> > > that's why many of them r still in UMNO.......once we failed ..that
> >doesnt
> > > mean
> > > we should stop.........our prophet taught us not to stop in correcting
> >our
> > > Muslim.......in his dakwah....
> > > nabi met Abu Jahal 97 times.......just to tell him the same
> >thing....Allah
> > > is your God....and Abu Jahal hit him many times because of it. but
nabi
> > > didnt give up until Abu Jahal's death......now is there anyone out
there
> > > (especially PAS)
> > > who is going to support those in UMNO who r having the same vision as
> > > Anwar....?......
> > > i dont think so.............but personally.....i think they must
support
> > > those in UMNO with that vision if
> > > they struggle for Islam because of Allah......if they struggle for
> >politic
> > > and power......then they dont need to.....
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 8:22 AM
> > > Subject: Re: H-Net* RE: The Star:No one can object to
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm NAJIB. It is 2021/10/27 09:03:10.
> > > I'll reply on Re: H-Net* RE: The Star:No one can object to of mail
from
> > > [@BASE64] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear Br. Luqman,
> > >
> > > I would like to make some comments regarding your opinion on hudud.
> > > First of all, I would encourage you to refer back to the past history
> > > of the Umno struggle since it's establishment.
> > > It did not mention and has never clearly defined its struggle to
uphold
> > > Islam in its
> > > true meaning. It has been the main ruling party since 40 years. 40
years
> > > is not a very short time if you really want to implement something in
a
> > > very
> > > systematic approach such as "menarik rambut dari tepung".
> > >
> > > Furthermore, there have been many remarks form its top leaders on many
> > > occations
> > > on islamic issues which potrayed their antagonistic mindsets on islam.
> > > One of the most austaunding statement is from current PM on sunnah
> >nabi.
> > >
> > > I think you should realise the image of former deputy PM DS Anwar as
the
> > > reformer in umno especially on making changes from within on islamic
> >issues
> > > .
> > > His mission in umno to change umno from inside in order to make it
like
> > > "menarik rambut dari tepung". Where is he by now ?????????????????
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > >
> > >
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