$2k a month isn't really that expensive if you think about it. My web host (ArmouryNetwork) pays $54k a month for 3 T3 lines and 2 OC-25's so $2k isn't really that substantial. -Lakario ----- Original Message ----- From: _Phantom_ Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 2:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlcoders] FP charging There is a difference however, if u want the files from FP u dont HAVE to
pay, just wait.
If you want the files on a CD you have to pay.
Also I'm assuming that if you want a file on FP you have to submit it for it
to be hosted, where as any monkey with a CD-RW drive can make up a CD and
flog it, by submitting your files u are giving permission for those files to
be distubuted, same goes for demos on magazine cover CD's, they request
permission, which has to be given, before including it, you pay £5 for mag +
CD but the ppl who made the demo etc dont see any of it.
As for costing, I've had a quick look at dedicated hosting, it weights in at
$399.95/month plus the same for setup, and this gives u 25gig of transfer,
more than that is gonna cost ya more.
As you can see, it's not cheap (you could possible get a better deal but
that's besides the point)
Now, assume FP has say, 6 servers, ya looking at nearly $2K a month
THATS what u are paying for.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dynerman David M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 6:43 PM
Subject: RE: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b
But earlier, didn't we establish that selling a CD with mods on it for
more than $0.89 (or the cost of a CD) was illegal?
I'm not sure how much the bandwidth costs divided up are, but I have an
inkling that $6.99 a month is substantially more bandwidth then I
personally would use.
Kinda like burning a CDROM with Counter-Strike, FLF, and DOD on it, then
selling it for $1.00 (for the cost of the CD of course!) and then $8.00
shipping and handling.
david
-----Original Message-----
From: _Phantom_ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 9:29 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b
The point is, you aint paying for the patches or the mods, you are
paying
for the upkeep of the servers they are hosted on and the bandwidth the
servers use, and in doing so yo get a 'thank you' with a personal
server.
For $6.95 USD (£5 UKP) per month or $59.99 USD (£43 UKP) a year that's
not
really a bad deal, granted it's probably better for us CM users than
dialup
however.
It's time to face the fact that the time of the 'free internet' is all
but
gone, because of the costs and the lack of advert money now around, if
you
want fast service, ya gonna have to pay for things.
Incerdently, I belive all the files (part from maybe 2 unpopular ones)
I've
download have had 3 main servers and a couple of mirrors for them, thus
I've
never seen that problem.
----- Original Message -----
From: "omega" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b
> the problem is, most of the time there are only the personal servers
and
> *ONE* mirror for most of the files.
>
> im not paying $30 or so to download free things.
> add that ti $30 for ISP, $60 on average per game, plus hardware.
somewhere,
> somebodies getting seriously ripped off.
> paying the cash for a game to me is fine, but as if im going to pay to
> download *FREE* patches, and *FREE* mods.its just completely wrong.
>
>
> -omega
> Blackened Interactive
> http://www.nofadz.com/blackened
> IRC: irc.gamesnet.net channel: #blackened-interactive
> Assistant Coder, Underhive (http://www.underhive.com)
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "_Phantom_" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 10:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [hlcoders] what a bloody n00b
>
>
> > I download at all kinds of times, mostly when the US are up as well,
I've
> > never had to wait longer than 40mins for a file off one of the main
> servers
> > (last one was RtCW multiplayer demo)
> > I dont have the money to pay atm so I dont and use the free system
> >
> > As for charging, tech the are charging u so they can maintain the
system,
> > revnues (sp?) from adverts and the like which companys like this
used to
> use
> > to maintain the opertations have all but vanished, if they dont
charge
> they
> > will have to close down (hosting + bandwidth charges for something
like
> > fileplanet are gonna be huge!!! so after everyone pays their $x, I
forget
> > how much, but I know it's not much, I doubt they are turning a huge
profit
> > as they dont charge per download, just per month/year)
> >
> > If you dont like them hosting your files, email them and tell 'em to
stop,
> > as you are the copyright holder of the work then they have no choice
(as
I
> > understand it), however, imho that's just petty.. if I produce
something
I
> > want it to reach as wider audiance as I can, if some ppl chose to
spend
> some
> > $$$$ to download files quicker, all power to 'em I say.
>
>
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