I too am highly disappointed in valve.. Ive spent months of time and many ,many hours trying to make admining our servers an easy thing to do, and making the menus were more for peoples requests to do so, than anything else.
The provided api for everything is less than adequate on all accounts. Valve, Alfred, you would Like to know what things are needed? In game menus, not having to hit esq and block my view of the person im about to kick or ban. Leave the menus in ...and allow them to be selectable as to what the command they send on selection the way the esc menus do. The reason the menus are being taken out..is because of the Source TV proxy problem that sending the create menu messages to srctv caused.. Valve had to spend time troubleshooting that..and now the price for there time is to disable something they do not document..other than the 2 dozen source files in the sdk that shows there use. The correct solution is to have the srctv ignore user messages that it doesnt need. (as well as us developers taking the time to not send user messages to bots or hltv) Please provide the radio command menu as is or with programmer selectable commands the same way the esc menus use..Some times being able to hit the menu choices requires quick action... Shutting them down will break everyone's plugin and make it so that administering our servers is a difficult task again.
The effects interface seems pretty much an afterthought. Ok for sparks and smoke ..useless for much more, how about bloodstreams and flames and who knows what else.
Add Access to the users money via IPlayerInfo.
Ray
At 12:12 PM 05/20/2005, you wrote:
I have to agree that this is a really strange and frustrating approach to take on Valve's part. I'm more disappointed in Valve that there was zero forewarning before they wished to push such a big change onto everyone in the middle of the night. I'm going to start another thread on this topic.
-Mattie
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 6:24 AM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] MenuSelect
Its so good to know that Valve cares so much about its customers.. Ive never seen any warning about using a documented SDK user message.
>From Alfred Reynolds:
> > They are using an undocumented hack to display those menus, this > > update removes the hack and so they can no longer use it (because > > the last subsystem that was using it, radio menus, has finally been > > fixed to be client side). They have a plugin API to display > > messages to users and get feedback, they should use that. > > > > - Alfred > >They were warned multiple times to not use the hacks they were, so it is upon their >own heads.
>- Alfred
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