Open http://www.steampowered.com/v/index.php?area=stats and click on "View detailed statistics by game". No mod reaches higher than 0.5% of the official mod's playercount a short time after launch. The release of TF2 will not change this for the better or worse I'm sure.
There are many good reasons to make a mod for Source, but popularity or playercount is not one of them and it will never be ;) Steam is a commercial success already, so Valve has no interest in giving modders the promotion they'd need to get the same order of magnitude of players as their games, rather on the contrary, it'd compete with their real steam clients ( ID etc ). Don't read an insult into this Mike, from a business point of view, it's only logical; it's just that many modders start(ed) out with (too) high hopes ( partly fed by Valve's promises though ). I use(d) too many brackets in my sentences. > all of our mods will have no players when TF2 is released :( sad day > for modders everywhere > > On 9/13/07, Mike Durand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> c. Mike is busy right now working on the TF2 beta for Monday :) >> >> So the answer is: we will not be shipping the CSS Bot code but I am in >> the process of working with some community members on new interfaces >> that will provide additional functionality for bots. So we won't ship >> you bot code, but we will enable you to make good ones of your own. >> >> -Mike >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tobias >> Kammersgaard >> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 5:20 PM >> To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com >> Subject: Re: [hlcoders] SDK Update heads up? >> >> -- >> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >> So you picked b.? Good choice. >> >> /ProZak >> >> >> On 14/09/2007, Mark Chandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> > Lol then whos mike? OMG HES FROM VALVE! >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick >> > Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 1:31 AM >> > To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com >> > Subject: Re: [hlcoders] SDK Update heads up? >> > >> > a. valve didn't read your question >> > b. valve doesn't want to answer >> > >> > pick one >> > >> > On 9/13/07, Mark Chandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > Funny that I don't see your email being from valve. How bout we get >> a >> > > response from valve instead of speculation. >> > > >> > > -----Original Message----- >> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tobias >> > > Kammersgaard >> > > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 9:34 PM >> > > To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com >> > > Subject: Re: [hlcoders] SDK Update heads up? >> > > >> > > -- >> > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >> > > As mentioned before the CS:S bot code is property of Turtle Rock >> > studios, >> > > doubt Valve can distribute (parts of) it if they wanted to. >> > > >> > > /ProZak >> > > >> > > >> > > On 13/09/2007, Mark Chandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > > >> > > > Mike no css bot code? :'( >> > > > >> > > > -----Original Message----- >> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick >> > > > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 12:34 PM >> > > > To: hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com >> > > > Subject: Re: [hlcoders] SDK Update heads up? >> > > > >> > > > Utilization of Multi-core Processors >> > > > >> > > > yaaaaaaaaaaaay....... too bad we have to wait until november :( >> > > > >> > > > On 9/12/07, Mike Durand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > > > Hi All- >> > > > > >> > > > > Once I do the "big merge" I will be able to provide a better >> preview >> > of >> > > > > changes that you will be getting with the next SDK update. But >> for >> > now >> > > > > here is the high-level list of new features and improvements in >> > Orange >> > > > > Box games and the latest version of the Source Engine: >> > > > > >> > > > > Non-photo-realistic Rendering >> > > > > Cinematic Physics Simulations >> > > > > Utilization of Multi-core Processors >> > > > > Improved HDR >> > > > > Enhanced Particle System >> > > > > Human Skin Shader Improvements >> > > > > Enhanced Foliage Rendering >> > > > > New Motion Blur Effect >> > > > > Pixel Shader Model 3.0 >> > > > > Enhanced Shadows >> > > > > >> > > > > Hopefully some of this stuff looks interesting to some of you. >> :) >> > > > > >> > > > > -Mike >> > > > > >> > > > > -----Original Message----- >> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joel >> R. >> > > > > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 1:43 PM >> > > > > To: hlcoders >> > > > > Subject: [hlcoders] SDK Update heads up? >> > > > > >> > > > > -- >> > > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >> > > > > There hasn't been much talk about what updates we'll be >> receiving to >> > the >> > > > > SDK >> > > > > for Episode 2. I was hoping you guys at Valve would enlighten >> us a >> > bit >> > > > > on >> > > > > what to expect. The only things I've heard are from the Ep 2 >> video >> > that >> > > > > was >> > > > > shown, regarding the new technologies put in, like the cinematic >> > > > > physics, >> > > > > enhanced foliage rendering and better expansive outdoor >> rendering. >> > > > > >> > > > > It'd be great to have a heads up on what we'll be receiving. >> It's >> > not >> > > > > very >> > > > > fun to just throw us these new updates, and have us figure out >> whats >> > > > > new. >> > > > > Updates I'm hoping for is some enhancement with the Physics >> system >> > to >> > > > > allow >> > > > > for better network predicting. Shaders to allow multiple >> passes, or >> > > > > dynamically change a shader for one model without having to >> switch >> > skins >> > > > > of >> > > > > the models, and an increase on the limit of 64 instructions for >> the >> > .fxc >> > > > > shaders. >> > > > > >> > > > > I've also been trying to implement my own physics, however its a >> bit >> > > > > hard to >> > > > > do with the standard line and ray traces we have. I know we >> won't >> > be >> > > > > receiving SOLID_OBB or anything of that sorts, but this engine >> is >> > > > > suppose to >> > > > > be top of the line, and it is still using only AABB. >> > > > > >> > > > > I'm sure there is more things others have been hoping for, >> shedding >> > some >> > > > > light on us would be much appreciated! >> > > > > >> > > > > Thanks. >> > > > > -Joel >> > > > > -- >> > > > > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> > archives, >> > > > > please visit: >> > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> > archives, >> > > > please visit: >> > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, >> > > > please visit: >> > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders >> > > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, >> > > > please visit: >> > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders >> > > > >> > > > >> > > -- >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, >> > > please visit: >> > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, >> > please visit: >> > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders >> > > >> > > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> > please visit: >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> > please visit: >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders >> > >> > >> -- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
