Yeah, that's what's killed Science and Industry 2. I joined the dev team last summer, thinking I could jump start the mod again, get things actually moving since they were without a coder. Boy was I wrong. The mod wasn't going anywhere not just because it was without a coder. It wasn't going anywhere because the team was a bunch of lazy people who couldn't really care less about SI2, let alone SI. Most of the people on the team would rather torrent and watch entire seasons of bad American TV shows. Granted, there were a couple people who still tried to keep working on the mod, including myself. But those of us who actually cared about the mod were completely bogged down with real life and barely had time to work on it. Maybe those other lazy people were busy with real life, but they always made sure they had plenty of time to watch season after season of TV shows.
Garrett aka FredFriendship </offtopic> ----- Original Message ---- From: Ben Everett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Discussion of Half-Life Programming <hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 4:21:17 PM Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Post your code! http://www.obike.net/forsaken/Release.exe There's the link to download the final version of Forsaken. Management skills aren't as much of a problem as most people think, it's something that can be developed over time. The problem is finding people that are willing to dedicate time and effort to a mod, even if it means making a little sacrifices. Unfortunately not many people are willing to do that, which is why a lot of mods have been dying. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tobias Kammersgaard Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 6:01 PM To: Discussion of Half-Life Programming Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Post your code! Just checked it out. Seems like you guys were pretty far in development! I could easily see somebody taking continuing this project, unfortunately,I don't think my management skills are good enough for that. What kinda scares me (bit off-topic, I know) is the amount of mods (big) mods dying lately. /ScarT On 16/06/2008, Ben Everett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't have access to modify the Forsaken entry on ModDB anymore > unfortunately. I would have no problem throwing it up on Google Code, IF > the > mod was still being actively developed. The problem was never updating the > code, just art assets and maps. You know there is a problem when coders > start learning how to map ;) > > Forsaken could still easily be developed and released for wide public use, > the only thing ever lacking was the final push from artists and mappers to > add the few remaining assets. Unfortunately our lead mapper is now the lead > level designer for Little Big Planet, our lead character artist/animator is > now the lead character artist for Hi-Rez Studio's Global Agenda, and our > lead weapon modeler has worked full-time at Terminal Reality for quite a > while. It's hard for people to work on a game full-time during the day and > come home and work on another game... it's draining on a lot of levels. > > The key thing is we all had fun developing Forsaken. All we cared about was > making a game that WE enjoyed playing, and at that we succeeded. It's just > unfortunate that despite the amount of time we poured into the project, the > general public never really got to see what we were doing. That's why I'm > releasing everything now... to let others enjoy it. There's the fringe > benefit for everyone else out there in getting to learn from our source > code, there's some pretty cool stuff tucked away in there. One of them > being > the ability to have a mapper create the win conditions for a map that > depends on the team. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Edwards > Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 5:27 PM > To: Discussion of Half-Life Programming > Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Post your code! > > You could put it on ModDB too. > > http://www.moddb.com/mods/3591/forsaken/downloads > > Ben Everett wrote: > > Copyright isn't an issue at all, distribution is. I'll contact FilePlanet > > and FileShack to have them host it. You can already nab all art assets > and > > code from: > > http://www.obike.net/forsaken/Forsaken%20Release.rar > > > > I'll upload a installation file for the mod itself shortly. > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom > Edwards > > Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 2:33 PM > > To: Discussion of Half-Life Programming > > Subject: Re: [hlcoders] Post your code! > > > > Watch out for copyright. It doesn't matter if you can get in touch with > > them any more: it's still not your work. > > > > Otherwise, bring it on! :-) > > > > Ben Everett wrote: > > > >> Hmm, since Forsaken is now officially dead (can't get in touch w/ anyone > >> anymore) I've thought about releasing the source code, art assets, and > map > >> assets for free as well as the last playable build of the game. What > would > >> you guys think of that? > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom > Edwards > >> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 4:30 AM > >> To: hlcoders > >> Subject: [hlcoders] Post your code! > >> > >> Do you have any code lying around that might be useful to others? Why > >> not share it? > >> > >> http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Category:Free_source_code > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> please visit: > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > >> > >> > >> __________ NOD32 3186 (20080613) Information __________ > >> > >> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > >> http://www.eset.com > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >> > > please visit: > > > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > > > > > __________ NOD32 3187 (20080615) Information __________ > > > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > > __________ NOD32 3188 (20080615) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders > > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders __________ NOD32 3188 (20080615) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlcoders
