Heh, yeah, but they often go way the hell overboard with 6" fans stuck all in
and on the case and liquid nitrogen running through the system or whatever :)
I'm just looking for a good fan/heatsink combo I can trust to quietly keep the
CPU at optimal temps.  No overclocking, $45 fan clusters, etc...  Just good,
simple, "This off-the-shelf fan was just plain the best performer" :)

I'll check out those sites, though.  Thanks for the URL's...

Eric (the Deacon remix)
http://www.firekite.com


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert J Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 2:00 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: motherboard for 1U case
>
>
>
> If you need cooling info, I'd suggest Sharky Extreme or HardOCP.
> They usually have good articles on cooling, especially HardOCP.
> www.sharkyextreme.com
> www.hardocp.com
>
>
> -----------------------------------------------------
> Robert J Mitchell
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stan Hoeppner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 11:49 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: motherboard for 1U case
>
>
> The Orbs are neat looking, but they don't cool all that well compared to
> others.
>
> Check this out:
>
> http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/01q2/010521/index.html
>
> As far as fan quality, I don't think Tom's goes into that much detail,
> but
> keep in mind, many times you do get what you pay for.
>
> List of high quality long life fans:
>
> NMB
> Nidec
> Sanyo Denki (San Ace, same thing)
> Panaflow (Panasonic)
> Oratek
>
> to name just a few..
>
> StanTheMan
> TheHardwareFreak
> www.hardwarefreak.devastation.cc
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Eric Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 12:20 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: motherboard for 1U case
> >
> >
> >
> > Well, what about more general-purpose coolers than those
> > specifically for 1U
> > use?  What about for regular towers?  I don't know what
> > bearing brands they're
> > using in these fans...  I've heard things like Blue Orbs are
> > cool for socket A
> > CPU's, but...
> >
> > Eric (the Deacon remix)
> > http://www.firekite.com
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Stan Hoeppner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2001 12:07 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: motherboard for 1U case
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Cooler Master does have a life time warranty on their
> > coolers, BUT, who
> > > wants to have to replace it when it fails, and takes the
> > CPU with it?
> > >
> > > The thing I hate about Cooler Master units is that they use
> > low grade ball
> > > bearing fans such as Moto1 and TopMotor.  They don't have
> > much longevity in
> > > my experience...about a year on a hot CPU before the heat
> > absorbed by the
> > > bearings causes them to fail.
> > >
> > > Now, if you can find a cooler with a Nidec, NMB, Sanyo
> > Denki, or Oratek fan
> > > on it, you're set.  These puppies wont fail, unless you
> > choke 'em with soot,
> > > and even that sometimes won't cause them to fail.
> > >
> > > I'd still like to find out who the cooler supplier is to
> > GigaByte for that
> > > SR101 server, as it looks to be the ticket for 1U CPU cooling.
> > >
> > > StanTheMan
> > > TheHardwareFreak
> > > www.hardwarefreak.devastation.cc
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Phillip Przybla [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 8:50 PM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: motherboard for 1U case
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I know coolermaster makes some kind of low profile fan for a
> > > > 1U case. That
> > > > is what we use at my place of work. If I remember correctly
> > > > they are good
> > > > for ~1Gig P3. But the case we use has LOTS of forced air flow.
> > > >
> > > > Phil
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Stan Hoeppner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 9:44 AM
> > > > Subject: RE: motherboard for 1U case
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The thing is you need to find one of those horizontal
> > > > blower fans designed
> > > > > specifically for 1U cases.  I haven't found them
> > > > anywhere..but I haven't
> > > > > looked that hard.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you want to use a dual board with 1 CPU for now, and
> > > > expand later, go
> > > > > with the pre built solution.  A generic 1U case just isn't
> > > > going to cut it
> > > > > in the air flow (cooling) department.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you're strictly going to go single CPU, you should be
> > > > fine.  A Duron at
> > > > > 750 to 1000Mhz should be able to handle 40 players easy
> > > > enough, unless
> > > > > you're running a bunch of other shit too:  hlstats, sql
> > > > server, admin_mod,
> > > > > etc.  BUT, you still need to find a good horizontal CPU cooler
> > > > > solution...I'll see what I can dig up.  Then again, who
> > > > knows what this
> > > > > upcoming HL and CS upgrade will do to min hardware req's.
> > > > >
> > > > > Your colo situation prompting this project?
> > > > >
> > > > > BTW, if you end up ditching the VP6 and dual 700s, how much
> > > > you want for
> > > > the
> > > > > combo?
> > > > >
> > > > > StanTheMan
> > > > > TheHardwareFreak
> > > > > www.hardwarefreak.devastation.cc
> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: EnragedTech [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 3:06 PM
> > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > Subject: Re: motherboard for 1U case
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The current server has a abit VP6 with dual P3-700. After
> > > > checking the
> > > > > > prices, it may be time to ditch the 700's. Found the
> > sr101 1U and
> > > > > > motherboard at a reseller for about a grand.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Seems simpler to start over with a single cpu system now.
> > > > Planning on
> > > > > > running 2 games with 20 players each. Is it possible to buy a
> > > > > > generic 1U
> > > > > > case,P/S, mb, cpu and matching cooling fan for less than
> > > > > > $500, and use the
> > > > > > ram and drive from the old server. Would a amd duron 1.0
> > > > (morgan) have
> > > > > > enough power?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tom P.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > PS: I have a spair asus CUSL2 w/onboard vga, and a spair ECS
> > > > > > K7S5A w/onboard
> > > > > > LAN.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "HoundDawg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 11:25 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: motherboard for 1U case
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > From: "Stan Hoeppner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > > One of the other list members said he purchased one of
> > > > > > these for a song,
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > it looks like a good solution as well:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > http://www.gigabytenetworking.com/info/GBT_SR101.asp
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Again, you'll need to locate a reseller.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > heh, that would be me. And actually Stan, yes it does work
> > > > > > well and I was
> > > > > > > able to get it without going through all that reseller
> > > > > > stuff.  If you try
> > > > > > > and can't email me privately and I'll hook you up.  The
> > > > > > server is running
> > > > > > > perfect and I still think that it was the best deal and the
> > > > > > best 1U layout
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > could find.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > HoundDawg
> > > > > > > http://www.phpGamingSite.com
> > > > > > > http://www.unitedadmins.com
> > > > > > > http://www.unitedadmins.com/hlbp
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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