Now those are some pretty good comments and more close to the truth! Thanks Stan.
HoundDawg http://www.phpGamingSite.com http://www.unitedadmins.com http://www.unitedadmins.com/hlbp ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stan Hoeppner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 9:12 PM Subject: RE: PB doesn't even work, confirmed! > > > It's like cutting a stranger's lawn > > and expecting a > > Hamilton for it ... > > This is a bad analogy. The point being made is that a question has been > posed to Valve by the HLDS server admin mailing list. Valve has not yet > given a response. The popularity of Half-Life, and it's continued > (apparently) financial success is due to the number of *free* public servers > available for consumers of the client to play on, AND the number of MODs > available for the HL engine. > > That said, watch what would happen to Valve if all the HLDS server admins > decided to boycott the company, and shut down all those 10,000+ HLDS > servers. I'm talking permanently. You would see a much different attitude > from Valve if this happened. HL has experienced a nice success snowball > effect because of all the *free* support given to it by those who host it > and develop for it. > > If CS would have never been developed, HL would be a "has been" or "classic" > game already. There would be no recurring revenue. Valve would already be > belly up, or close to it. > > The point that many are making is, without public servers (and those who > host them), and without cool mods that extend the useful life of the HL > engine, few would play HL, and therefore few would continue to buy it. > Thus, bye bye Valve. It seems the general consensus is that Valve "owes" > something back to those who have helped make Valve financially successful, > whom without, Valve would be nothing. No, Valve didn't ask for this, but > they'd be nowhere without it.... > > StanTheMan > TheHardwareFreak > www.hardwarefreak.devastation.cc > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: HL Server [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 2:37 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: PB doesn't even work, confirmed! > > > > > > > > At 11:18 AM 09/25/2001 -0500, you wrote: > > > > Why do you deserve to know anything about VALVe's business? > > > > > >Because we've volunteered hundreds of man hours and > > thousands of dollars to > > >supporting their product. Because it's not unreasonable to > > have *some* > > >sort of > > >response. The amount of money and time spent on serving this > > game for them > > >is just staggering, > > >and I'm glad I'm not stuck with most of y'all's colo bills > > and hardware > > >bills... > > > > snipped a lot, but my stance is this ... VALVe didn't ask you > > to do it, you > > did it on your own ... It's like cutting a stranger's lawn > > and expecting a > > Hamilton for it ... > > > > > > It's a shame, PB is NOT an obstacle for any cheaters ... > > > > > >Heh, since most of these hacks will *not* run in Win2k, I've > > been unable > > >to test > > >them for a while... This is very possible, and I have to rely on the > > >information from folks like you and the other members of > > this list, for > > >instance, for the only half-way reliable reports on what's > > caught and what's > > >not. Heh, and then you get conflicting responses, and > > you're like, "Well? > > >Which is it? Caught or not?" Heh, ahhhhh, the life of a > > non-cheating > > >admin ;) > > > > > >Eric (the Deacon remix) > > >http://www.firekite.com > > > > Hack works perfectly fine on W2K ... I wouldn't run anything else ... > > > > I finally got fed up after months of being hit from across > > the map and when > > the link presented itself, I decided to test my anti-cheat armor ... I > > found out that there is no armor and it's been going on > > forever ... It was > > never even hindered by PB ... I would have shared this > > information even if > > PB didn't decide to bail on HL .... > > > > > > > >
