LOL!!!  what good ole'days? I Someone may have a faulty memory chip!

-----Original Message-----
From: Kingsley Foreman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 6:57 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [hlds] Latest Win Version, HLDS - Lag Issue


u mean to good old days when the list help problems
not just complain about loosing money

Kingsley

----- Original Message -----
From: "Guido" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 8:12 AM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Latest Win Version, HLDS - Lag Issue


> We get the point. Why are you making a dram out of this? didn't you see
> Alfred's post? I see on some posts that people long for the good old days
of
> this list. I havent been here that long, but im sure that 'The Good Ol'
> Days' are much better then this, when people like Roc, keep complaining,
and
> thats not helping anyone is it? Roc, please, you made 5 posts already, we
> get your point.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Roc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 6:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Latest Win Version, HLDS - Lag Issue
>
>
> > Ok, I do understand the developers view.
> >
> > Now, I am not a subscriber but lets try the subscribers view!
> >
> > A subscribing customer who bought Condition Zero (for instance) through
> > STEAM to play online does not care one bit about the developing end of
it
> or
> > if the game is 5 years old!
> > They just want what they are subscribing for to work.  :)
> >
> > Or the guy who sells servers view.
> > He stands to lose customers when Admin thinks his service stinks because
> he
> > gets 14 or more complaints about lag.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Darren J. Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 5:44 PM
> > Subject: RE: [hlds] Latest Win Version, HLDS - Lag Issue
> >
> >
> > > Like someone said earlier - "spoken like a true non-developer"
> > >
> > > I am not taking your post the wrong way. Like many here I develop
> software
> > > for a living. Very rare is the occasion that a product is made 100%
> > > perfectly with no need for any future patches or upgrades. Even the
best
> > and
> > > brightest minds can work hard on an upgrade or patch and still don't
> have
> > > 100% oversight/foresight to know and understand what "might" happen
(in
> > this
> > > case lag was introduced) or the affects of the new patch/upgrade on
the
> > > existing system.
> > >
> > > This doesn't mean the lag bug doesn't bother the heck out of me or do
I
> > > think it's acceptable. But, did you fail to see that Alfred took the
> time
> > to
> > > post that they were already testing a fix for this!?! Gee this means
> that
> > > from day one (ok maybe day two) Valve was listening to us here and
> > > investigating the issue, discovered a true issue, and started created
a
> > fix
> > > for it.
> > >
> > > This is not ass kissing as you suppose - I do not currently, nor have
I
> > ever
> > > received any benefit from posting pro-Valve, or anti-valve comments
here
> > or
> > > anywhere else. Pardon me, the single and most important benefit is
that
> I
> > > have a place to post and Valve does have people who take the time to
> > answer.
> > >
> > > P.S. Alfred - this post should put me over the top in qualifying for
the
> > > pre-release HL2 copy many others have already received. I hope you and
> the
> > > guys could find it in your heart to email it to me right away! ;)
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Roc
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 2:07 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Latest Win Version, HLDS - Lag Issue
> > >
> > >
> > > wow, you obviously are reading my post the wrong way.  I was trying to
> > make
> > > a point that here we go yet again with another problem that should've
> been
> > > worked on before release!
> > >
> > > Rolling back while helps is not recommended, can't you read? (see I
can
> > > flame too)
> > >
> > > Stop kissing up to valve, it doesn't matter if the game is old or new
I
> > was
> > > making a point. A valid one at that.  :)
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Darren J. Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 1:53 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [hlds] Latest Win Version, HLDS - Lag Issue
> > >
> > >
> > > > wow, you sure got a bug up your bum!
> > > >
> > > > Seriously, think about all that has transpired since the
> implementation
> > of
> > > > Steam and the number of times something like this has happened.
While
> we
> > > all
> > > > have had our moments of being pissy and wishing things would get
done
> > > > faster, smoother, and more reliably, all in all the ball has been
> > rolling
> > > in
> > > > the right direction without too much trouble. Besides, you can
> download
> > > the
> > > > old mp.dll like everyone else - or don't you know how to download.
> > > >
> > > > Geez boy, you are dealing with a 5 year old game anyway - give it a
> > rest.
> > > >
> > > > Half life 2 will be out in another year, hang in there!
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Roc
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 10:17 AM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Latest Win Version, HLDS - Lag Issue
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I gave up and shut down till something's done.
> > > >
> > > > Maybe, just maybe, if everyone did the same for a show of unity and
to
> > > send
> > > > a message that we're tired of the bullshit maybe just maybe we'd get
> > > through
> > > > to valve.... just a thought.
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Pawel Dabrowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 9:09 AM
> > > > Subject: RE: [hlds] Latest Win Version, HLDS - Lag Issue
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Just wanna verify those who had this problem are you still having
it
> > > with
> > > > > the latest mp.dll?
> > > > > Is there any other fix anyone knows of appart from replacing the
> > mp.dll
> > > to
> > > > > the older one?
> > > > >
> > > > > Pawel Dabrowski
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Shane
> Robinett
> > > > > Sent: 16 June 2004 14:42
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: [hlds] Latest Win Version, HLDS - Lag Issue
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> > > > > --
> > > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > > > > Windows systems, Intel - Win 2003 environments, dual processor
> > > > >
> > > > > I have 14 open calls from public server clients reporting lag
> issues.
> > > > 10-30
> > > > > second freezes for client connections.  Restarting the server
seems
> to
> > > > > resolve it, for a short term.  Problem appears to have started in
> the
> > > last
> > > > > day or two.
> > > > >
> > > > > Valve - If you need access to some of our resources, just let me
> know.
> > > > > Happy to provide test servers for your breaking amusement!
> > > > >
> > > > > --Shane
> > > > > PHXX.NET
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > >
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