Well said I agree with that totally - the idea of steam doesn't suck at all - in fact its a good idea. The PROBLEM is the use of everyone as valves beta testers
Regards, Matt White [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Fencik Sent: 29 July 2004 17:40 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] Problems with steam client and HLDS I think everyone's gripes about the content delivered by steam would just go away if we had a way of selecting what updates to receive. Ideally for server admins, we'd have an ability to download whatever version we want, like: Hldsupdatetool -command update -version X ... I don't think this is feasible for valve, as it would increase their bandwidth usage and would mean more administration for them. I can see their wish to have only one version out there to support. I think about WON with hlds version 4.1.1.0 through 4.1.1.1d. I remember 3 beta versions being released in one day. If we were using steam at the time, this would mean 3 steam updates...not acceptable. I think it has been said a few times already, but a command switch like this would be awesome: Hldsupdatetool -command update -nobeta ... I think that most people who are praising won are really praising the ability to control what version they are running. This would satisfy them, and would also mean a slight reduction in bandwidth usage for valve. It is an established practice for any software developer to release beta software before a final is released. Steam is an excellent content delivery mechanism, however, it cannot do away with this practice. Dave -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of K. Mike Bradley Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 9:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] Problems with steam client and HLDS Look people ..... This is how it is. At this time there is nothing wrong with the Steam client. Steam works pretty good. Having updates automatically works good to and is a wonderful thing except ... The real problem is the updates, to this game or that, are not tested by Valve. This is the bad thing. What bugs me is that people keep saying, "Steam sucks" Be we must remember Steam is a content delivery and authentication system client. It is a totally separate piece of software that is not really connected to the game content of HL or CS or any other game they may add in the future. It's not Steam that sucks ... It's the untested updates to HL1 and CS et al... -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rob Harwood Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 2:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] Problems with steam client and HLDS I think people just start accepting it again before it gets made worse. -- Rob -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 July 2004 19:09 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hlds] Problems with steam client and HLDS A) How come so many people have been running Steam servers for almost a year successfully, yet when one person doesn't read the docs and can't get it running, it is a failure. B) part of me wishes I had archived the crying and gripes from every version upgrade from the time I started playing/adminning HL (beta 6ish). It would be great to show people how silly it sounds, as they praise the "last good version" that at one time was the bane of their existence. C) why is A) a prevailing philosophy? _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
