I agree ... We should all adopt a policy of immediately leaving a hacked server.
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Spartibus Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 11:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC Update? It's people like yourself taking it to the extreme. Since there's no admin there, what do you do? Leave. Blatant hackers aren't there to be better than anyone else. They're there to annoy and destroy any pub game that's happening. You actually staying in the server and displaying your hate fuels this person to continue cheating on the server. There's more than one server out there. I understand it's a place you enjoy playing at, but you have to use common sense and just find a different place to play for the time being. --- On to the other point someone made. VAC isn't the end-all tool. You actually have to take matters into your own hands, instead of being lazy and rely on something to do every single thing for you. If you can't handle dealing with cheaters, don't admin a server. A lot of people fail to realize just how lucky we are to have a tool like VAC. Even though it's not updated as much as some of us may have wished (at least currently, I think some major changes will be made once Valve finishes its current projects), be happy to have this instead of nothing at all (or horrible, half-assed third party tools) -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darren J. Mason Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2004 7:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC Update? I have thus far refused to participate in the "everyone hacks" thread, but last nights CS experience has left me so freakin mad that I need to vent somewhere! I play only on a few servers, all West Coast. We definately have been visited time to time by "super-good" players, and very infrequently by someone with very questionable skills. Most of the servers are regulars so we know everyone who plays there and the regs usually pressure the hacks away pretty quickly. Last night I jump on for a few rounds before bed. Headshot, headshot, headshot, headshot - my whole freakin team dead, and all this within about 2 seconds of round start. A player named "knife" was using every hack imaginable: speed, aimbot, wall, everything! Typically when someone is this blatant, everyone will vote him off fairly quickly. Last night the regs were the minority and no one on the other team would vote against this guy. This totally pissed me off. I was cussing everyone out, and eventually started taunting the other players because they wouldn't vote against him. I really didn't get it. This guy would kill everyone on my team within 1-2 seconds and no one on his team would kill anyone. They wouldn't even get a shot off - how the heck can that be fun for anyone? But they wouldn't vote him off! One of my favorite servers ruined by a freak hack and loser opponents who obviously liked standing around doing nothing. wow. So there's my vent / rant / etc. Hopefully, VAC will continue to improve and somehow, somewhere, servers will become a better place to play. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Timothy Lynn Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 9:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hlds] VAC Update? K. Mike Bradley wrote: > I said 3/4 have DL'ed and used cheats at least once in a while. > > 50% cheat all the time either because they are cheaters at heart or > because they want to even the playing field when playing other > cheaters. The numbers are growing because of all the cheaters. Hey Mike, you want to start, I don't know, bringing some data with ya when you make these ridiculous claims? If one admin out two respond after this saying that like me, they don't cheat, will you be quiet then? And while you're at it... You may or may not have noticed this, but this isn't a forum, it's a listsrv, and adding a one line response on top of about 22K of misquoted and mangled crap is about the most useless thing a learned admin could do. There are people who get the digest of the list and when you make posts like you did it completely destroys any sense of continuity and needlessly bloats the digests. Not to mention there are people on the list who have metered usage, so downloading all these over-quoted responses does them no favors either. You're using Outlook, so take a look at the great program Outlook Quotefix at http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/outlook-quotefix/. It'll automatically do things like strip out signatures and listsrv footers (assuming they're properly delineated by "--"), put a sensible quote header in, word wrap stuff, and move your cursor beneath quoted material automatically. All you need to do is pick out the stuff you don't want quoted and delete it, a task that takes about 5 seconds. -- Tim _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
