They are all game programmers and not network or IT engineers.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Whisper
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 5:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [hlds] For Bruce B. Snipett of Doug Lombardi interview
Personally I do not think STEAM is a bad idea per se, although I would be
extremely concerned with some of the possibilities if you are of the
paranoid conspiracy ilk, as there are some definite conclusions you can draw
that are a logical consequence of this technology.
That being said, the whole thing was a complete design and implementation
cluster fuck from almost the beginning.
How Valve had no idea how many users they were going to have to service on
the STEAM Network I will ever understand.
The complete naivety Valve displays in regards to the security of their
software borders on the sophomoric at the best of times. At worst it is
completely negligent!! Their design philosophys might have worked back in
1995 when the Internet really started to kick off, and nobody knew what they
were really doing, but in the 21st century you build your network
applications based on the following principles:
1. Whatever Network Bandwidth you think you are going to need, double it,
people can never get enough, and be in the position to quickly double it
again on demand with a sub 24 hour turn around.
2. Servers and Server Process break down, for crying out loud, automate the
monitoring of the damn things if you can't put bodies on them to watch them
24/7 and setup things so when something crashes, it is restarted
automatically.
3. The Internet is a dangerous place, assume people are going to try to fuck
you, your network and your software up with methodical malicious intent and
plan accordingly.
I know I go on about this shit constantly, but who here with experience with
Networks and Servers could not have foreseen many of the problems that Valve
seem to blindly stumble into on a regular basis?
And what is worse though, is that it is going to happen again and again and
again because whatever software culture they have over it Valve is, its not
working at a very fundamental level.
The worst thing is, their idea's are great, STEAM is a great idea (poor
implemented mind you) their games are great when it comes to playing them. I
suspect HL2 is going to make Doom3 seem like an annoyance in terms of its
depth of story and useful visual effects and multi faceted possibilities,
but they keep letting themselves down, which annoying to me because they
promise so much!!!
Anyhow that's the end of this rant for now. Guess you will all get another
one soon enough, I'm afraid.
On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 10:32:25 -0700, Ooks Server <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
"After a bumpy first few months..."
Bumpy? lol, what an understatement :-) It was more like slamming into
a brick wall at 180mph....
From their perspective, it is working just fine. There is an allowable
level of defects, and even if that means that 1% of their customers
are borked, it's still work well for the 99% and that is good enough.
How would you like it if your bank or credit card company screwed up 1% of
their transactions?
Besides, what is he going to do, stand up and tell the truth that no
one wanted Steam in the first place but decided to shove crapware down
our throats because it helps maximize our shareholders wealth, and
that is all that counts after all...
Quake4 is looking better and better.....
</cynicism>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 9:35 AM
Subject: Re: [hlds] For Bruce B. Snipett of Doug Lombardi interview
lol, maybe he doesn't know about the...issues ;)
Shame I don't have his email address :(
- Bruce "Bahamut" Andrews
Napier, Kevin wrote:
Clearly he's on medication. :)
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave R. Meyers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 9:29 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [hlds] For Bruce B. Snipett of Doug Lombardi interview
HomeLAN - After a bumpy first few months, Steam seems to have
become a stable way to release Valve's products. Are you pleased
with the Steam content delivery system and what changes and
improvements to it can we expect in the months ahead?
Doug Lombardi - We're very pleased with how it has evolved. For
some
time,
it's been a great backend for updates, anti-cheating, and server
browsing.
It proved to be an incredibly valuable tool for administering the CS:
Source
beta, allowing us to make changes and roll those changes to the
beta community almost instantly.
Just thought you would like his choice of words in regards to
steam. 8)
Dave R. Meyers
OZ Deathmatch
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