I would suggest and SMC barricade series. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pit Gee Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 8:33 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: Router tips WAS "Re: [hlds] Ban list."
*****crickets chirping****** So what "router" should I buy for around $50, lol. I appreciate the theoretical arguments about what a true router is but..... I want a router so I can have two or three computers in my home. I want something simple, safe and reliable that works. I think that other poster was spot on about getting some sunshine. Maybe a nap too.:>) At one time I was thinking of running a gaming server for dod but since I have basically quit gaming now will the router that Tony recommended do the trick without having an additional firewall? If not what firewall would you guys recommend? Is the windows firewall sufficient or is is crappy? Also I have a new computer that I haven't even set up yet. The motherboard has a "hardware" firewall. Does that take the place of a regular firewall completely? Basically, theoretics asside I was just looking for someone to give me the bottom line so I'm not wasting money on softwared (or router features) I don't need. (And I know this is a valve thread and I'm not asking a valve question exactly so forgive me for being a noob) It's not that I don't appreciate the vast store of information you guys posess it's just that it a lot of it is over my head at this moment. Also, it is really easy to misinterpret conversations on line so I hate to see even an inkling of an argument or flamefest. Some people may write a cerain way for effect or because that is their personalities while others may be totally offended by the tone they percieve.... (anti-flame off) lol Sorry for yet another totally useless post. Just thoughted a little comedy relief was in order!!!!!! >From: Whisper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com >Subject: Re: Router tips WAS "Re: [hlds] Ban list." >Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 16:07:08 +1100 > >Ook > >Thats the job of the Router Protocols, such as RIP, OSPF or in the case >of Internet Routers BGP & BGP-II > >I sincerely thought you would know this. > >On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 14:44:35 -0800, Ook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > How, then, does a router know where to send an incoming packet? If > > there >is > > no entry in the routing table, and if it's not blocked/dropped, > > where >does > > it go? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Whisper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> > > Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 2:03 PM > > Subject: Re: Router tips WAS "Re: [hlds] Ban list." > > > > > I beg to differ > > > > > > It is only shitty routers that block incoming requests by default > > > > > > Real routers don't cost less than $1000, nor a sold at Radio Shack > > > or Tandy and are generally are configured by people who know what > > > they are doing and what they are talking about. > > > > > > Only in the retail/consumer sector do people get away with calling > > > these devices "real routers" and anything else "shitty" > > > > > > On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 09:55:43 -0500, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Explain why you need to setup port forwarding on any router to > > > > run a server behind it. > > > > > > > > Routers block all unsolicited incomming requests BY DEFAULT. > > > > Unless it's some shitty router with a poor config. It acts as a > > > > firewall protecting the internal network from outside traffic > > > > (this does NOT mean though that any outgoing requests are blocked, those are NOT). > > > > > > > > Please read up before replying. > > > > > > > > > > > > ~Tony > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 01:41:40 +1100, Whisper > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > Routers by default (If we are talking about what routers > > > > > really >are) > > > > > DO NOT block anything in either direction, they route, its as >simple > > > > > as that. > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 08:04:23 -0500, Tony > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrote: > > > > > > 1. Linksys is a great brand in my opinion. I've yet to have > > > > > > a >true > > > > > > problem with their routers. > > > > > > 2. Might as well pick up a WRT54G, even if you don't plan to > > > > > > go wireless. The stuff that the new firmware can do over > > > > > > what the >old > > > > > > BEFSR41 can is worth the few extra bucks. Plus with the WRT, > > > > > > you > > have > > > > > > the option of third party firmwares. Don't get the WRT54GS >though. > > No > > > > > > need for it and some special firmwares won't work on it. > > > > > > 3. A router, by default, will block all unsolicited > > > > > > incomming requests. Doesn't mean that you DON'T need a > > > > > > firewall, but your >need > > > > > > will be greatly reduced. If you want to control the traffic >comming > > > > > > out of your network, then yes, you'll still need a firewall. > > > > > > > > > > > > ~Tony > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, please visit: > > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >archives, > > please visit: > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >archives, > > please visit: > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > archives, > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, >please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > >_______________________________________________ >To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >please visit: >http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _________________________________________________________________ Don't just search. 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