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AND YES THAT IMAGE IS REAL. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Micha Vermeer Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 7:03 PM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] what to do, or not to do... was Stupid Sounds First of all, i hope, with great hope, that Mani, Beetlefart and other mod writers would be recieving this list and join in on this discussion about what to do and what not to do. It would be great having such a thread about just that, but I am 100% sure that it would turn out to be another flamethrowing thread. You can bring any 2 people in the world together, and you will never find a pair that agrees completely with anything... so many people, so many opinions. That's also the reason why I wanted to just throw my opinion in this group to make admins think about their practices (and mod makers included!) but I never expected to get a "yes sir" and "amen". If mani decides to keep the default, I will just be swimming up against the flow and any other that would venture with me, because there always will be the ignorant admin that will never look at the defaults, let alone change them. And I fear those will always be in the majority (hopefully this list will not have any of such). We are always subject to the developers, so unless we can change their view, we won't make much progress. Mani and other mod developers might not even recognize the huge power they have, but with that power comes great responsibility. It is my opinion that mani made a mistake enabling the sounds feature by default, but as noted before he will change that, but in the mean time I guess I have to get used to press the cancel button a few more times... :/ (and small servers are already hard to find :/ ) Micha Vermeer /me goes off to play EvE, a great MMORPG... www.eve-online.com try it ;) -----Original Message----- List Keeper wrote: >cl_allowdownload "0" wArgOd wrote: That is one way but doesn't it also disable download of other things? Like custom maps and associated materials/sounds (for those maps not compiled to include everything in the bsp)? However, the "mattie" plugin (re: mani forums for info) is pretty powerful and admins who do not exercise *Generally Accepted Procedures* for admining servers (like I failed to do by not filtering clan/server specific bans from the shared ban list) are likely to configure the clients as the admin sees fit (for the session if the configs are read-only). Perhaps the community over at mani and mattie (now on sourcemod) should be lobbied in a positive manner to place information in the motd pertaining to plugins in use, what to expect, sound packs to download, custom map packs to download, where to go to obtain instructions on reporting undesireable conditions, etc. This requires some effort by the admin to keep up with over time. However, I think the mature players will greatly appreciate the level of professionalism. On the topic of *Generally Accepted Procedures*, perhaps we should engage in a thread to discuss and agree on any possible consistent behaviors for admins. (I'll hammer myself again on this one): Such as what types of bans are allowable to share, if any, and what documentation should accompany such bans, if allowable to be shared. Just some opinions and an idea, nothing more. If anyone else agrees a thread on *Generally Accepted Procedures* is worthy then by all means get it started. I won't because I am currently remaining fairly passive in the lists and especially where "how many servers" is involved. :P _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
