I agree with Newbie. Plugin authors being able to use the 'amx-style' menus correctly without having to use a work-around, and something that was officially supported by Valve, would be great. Soooo many admins and players alike have gotten used to these menus; they are much easier to use in-game and look really nice to boot.
What's preventing Valve from letting authors use this method? It's obviously preferred, can something be done about it so all parties concerned are happy? - K2 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 12:50 AM To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] server crashes w/ new update Alfred, Just wondering - what was so bad about this "hack"? I understand that it's not used anymore by Valve but you surely know that virtually any plugin was using these menus, so it is so necessary to remove them? I guess you won't argue that Esc-type menus are ugly to say at least. They might be great from API poing of view but they are not comfortable to use... Is there a chance that Valve leaves us with old style menus? Thanks and regards, Newbie ----- Original Message Follows ----- From: "Alfred Reynolds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> Subject: RE: [hlds] server crashes w/ new update Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 00:49:04 -0700 > They are using an undocumented hack to display those menus > , this update removes the hack and so they can no longer > use it (because the last subsystem that was using it, > radio menus, has finally been fixed to be client side). > They have a plugin API to display messages to users and > get feedback, they should use that. > > - Alfred > > ----Original Message---- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of K2 > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 12:43 AM To: > hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: RE: [hlds] server > crashes w/ new update > > > Thx Alfred for staying on top of this and offering a > > roll-back. Looking forward to the fix. > > > > Something else tho that I believe needs to be addressed. > > The Mani plugin as well as Beetles plugin no longer work > > as intended - the AMX-style menus no longer function. A > > quote from Beetle: 'valve stopped any commands from the > > menus being sent to the server... I have no idea of any > way to do it now..' > > > Was this intentional or part of the problem with the new > binary? > > > - K2 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > Alfred Reynolds > > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 7:35 PM > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > > Subject: RE: [hlds] server crashes w/ new update > > > > I am going to do an update soon that will roll the > > binary back (but keep the new de_inferno, it had a > > couple valuable fixes perf wise). The de_inferno update > made the whole update mandatory. > > > - Alfred > > > > ----Original Message---- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > > Simon Garner Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 10:26 PM To: > > hlds@list.valvesoftware.com Subject: Re: [hlds] server > crashes w/ new update > > > > On 20/05/2005 3:47 p.m., Alfred Reynolds wrote: > > > > I have had a couple reports of this happening on > > > > de_port. Does anyone get it on any other Valve maps? > > > (not third party ones). > > > > > - Alfred > > > > > > > > > > Seems to be happening on all maps. > > > > > > Save us Alfred, teh servers are dyiinng! > > > > > > On a related note, why was this a required update > > > anyway? I wasn't even going to bother updating as I > > > hadn't had any trouble with the two issues it was > > fixing, but unfortunately I was forced to. :( > > > > -Simon > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view > > > the list archives, please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the > > list archives, please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the > > list archives, please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the > list archives, please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
