-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I can't believe that you think they do
On 2/20/06, Dustin Tuft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You guys can't truely belive that Valve bases all performance on a single > video test? > > There are so many varibales (Hardware, other software demands on your > hardware, networking), sure I can get a 30 second test on just about any > system to put out 60+ FPS (after shuting down just about every service > that > is not required), but you have to look past the video test. When you > playing > on internet based servers your FPS are effected by many factors. For > instance your ISP method of tranfer from you to the internet (wireless or > wired, T1,DSL or Cable). The distance between players in a given server, > when the server has to wait for data before it can genrate the next frame > so > does your client. > > So think about, most of the Lag (or drop in FPS) in the game is caused by > internet by products, slow routers, busy routers and your local connect > setup in the first place. Then muplti that by the number of players in the > server (and lets not forget they have the same changle as you do getting > to > a remote server) and boom you have uncontrolable factors that cause poor > output in the game. > > So until the world is running on door to door fiber networks I really > don't > see any way Valve can fix a connection based problem. > > Dustin > > >From: "Dan Stevens (IAmAI)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > >To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com, hlcoders@list.valvesoftware.com > >Subject: Re: [hlds] Whining or true? > >Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 11:13:45 +0000 > > > > > I think Valve is not sure whether the complaints are real or are from > > > whiners. For example: On the client side the "video test" in CS:S > gave > > > me an average FPS of 110, and that data was sent to Valve. But in the > > > real world my system would be unplayable at times. The FPS would drop > > > when all the players were together fighting. So some would complain > to > > > Valve about the FPS but Valve had it's data (from the "video test") > > > telling them everyone was getting decent FPS'. > > > >Does anyone think that it might be possible to, via a mod, create a > >custom video test and hack it so sends frame rate report as if it had > >come the official video test. If everyone then used the custom video > >test, Valve may get a more 'accurate' survey of performance. > > > >I'm sending this question to coders list, as I'd guess they'd be more > >likely to know the answer. I hope that doesn't cause any technical > >inconveniences. > > > >On 19/02/06, Brian M Frain (eternal) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > -- > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > > I think you are right, I mean the general opinion does matter and > should > >be > > > considered by the ever churning valve machine but when it all comes > down > >to > > > it the fact is your dog is ugly. :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/18/06, DT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > I think Valve is not sure whether the complaints are real or are > from > > > > whiners. For example: On the client side the "video test" in CS:S > >gave > > > > me an average FPS of 110, and that data was sent to Valve. But in > the > > > > real world my system would be unplayable at times. The FPS would > drop > > > > when all the players were together fighting. So some would complain > >to > > > > Valve about the FPS but Valve had it's data (from the "video test") > > > > telling them everyone was getting decent FPS'. Also, I'm sure there > >was > > > > a lot of hackers crying to Valve saying they were just good players > >and > > > > got banned because of their skill. So Valve took the opinion that > >there > > > > was not that many hacks out there and all complaining were just > > > > whiners. I think that some of the info that Valve got was not real > > > > world experiences and when we complain that are not sure if it's > legit > > > > or Whining. So, I would suggest that when you see an e-mail that > you > > > > have experienced then to let them know. I understand how > frustrating > >it > > > > can be. I am personally extremely frustrated. So, now I beat my > dog. > > > > It's okay cause he's ugly and I think he likes it. ;) > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > > > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.11/264 - Release Date: > >2/17/2006 > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > > > please visit: > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > >please visit: > >http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > -- _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
