A server has the right to say 'My house, my rules.' The server can run
custom mods and what not. The server can that, if you're going to play
here, you have to do this. And ultimately, the server can kick or ban you
if you don't cooperate.
What the server should NOT be able to do is to MAKE you do anything, except
leave, without your knowledge and consent.
A lot of the code, in my opinion, needs to be reworked so the the same
functions as before (such as team switching, slaying, etc.) are available as
things to be done to the player instead of forcing the player to do these
things themselves. To my very limited understanding, such reworkings are
already in progress.
When it comes to connecting to another server, I've already said, a popup
dialog box (similar to the auto-retry when full dialog box) pops up saying
"we recommend" and it could have one or multiple servers. Then you could
say "No, connect me to this one, auto-join when ready". Server ops could
set whether that dialog box pops up all the time, or only when the server is
full.
And similarly, a dialog box if a server is closed, forwarding on to the
correct server.
The point is, ops shouldn't be able to take control of your keyboard and do
things for you. They can kick you off their server, but they shouldn't
force where you go after that, without knowledge or consent of the user.
That's abuse. That's not "My house, my rules", that's "You are now my slave
until you manually disconnect."
Sarcasm is not appreciated, so let's try to be constructive, okay? I
realize I'm new here, but I figure petty fighting isn't going to accomplish
much. I figure there's so many ways we could improve this game if we work
constructively and share ideas.
--Thortok2000
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roman Hatsiev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 5:28 AM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Valve...can we get the connect command for redirect in
SCRDS?
Server commands were disabled just in tide with this brand new idea of
protecting players from server operators abuse and giving players more
choice than ever. At the same time this choice is being taken away
from sever operators. I just suggest to make next logical step because
kick and ban abuse is far worse that anything else. For example,
yesterday I got banned on one of servers in Germany just for five
kills of server admin I made in row so he started falling from the top
of his stats. This IS abuse, not the server commands or redirect or
anything else. We must do something. Let's start vote topic on Steam
forums and you'll see what community thinks about it.
On 20/12/06, Joshua Handelsman-Woolf (DogGunn) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Well I think you may of taken it the wrong way. What I'm suggesting is,
if there was to forced functions such as the connect command, it would
be nice to have a dialog or something to say you have been recommended
to move to this server instead of just joining another server.
Roman Hatsiev wrote:
> Everyone hate being kicked or banned. I suggest removing kick and
> banid commands from the game. It must be a player's choice whether to
> play on this server, not server operator's. Also kick and ban are
> widely abused by many server operators, we must do something to
> protect players! The freedom of choice for players is everything,
> while server operators deserve no choice at all.
>
> On 20/12/06, Joshua Handelsman-Woolf (DogGunn) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>> Oh noes, please not the redirect, that annoyed me. I hated being
>> switched to another server without actually being given the option.
>> john @ GamersCoalition wrote:
>> > No reason to be afraid; thanks for the recommendation.
>> >
>> > On 12/19/06, Graham Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> "But they might also find it "annoying" to not be able to connect
>> to a
>> >> server showing 20/23
>> >> because of 3 reserve slots."
>> >>
>> >> I'm afraid to say this but you are doing your reserve slot system
>> >> wrong then. You want sv_visiblemaxplayers set to 20
>> >>
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