i think Thortok is right with his point ... the idea of the dialog box for redirects is great ... i hope that will be realized
andreas > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von > Roman Hatsiev > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. Dezember 2006 12:37 > An: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com > Betreff: Re: [hlds] Valve...can we get the connect command > for redirect in SCRDS? > > Everyone has his own understanding of abuse. So please do not > pretend that your understanding is more correct than mine. > > On 20/12/06, Thortok2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A server has the right to say 'My house, my rules.' The server can > > run custom mods and what not. The server can that, if > you're going to > > play here, you have to do this. And ultimately, the server > can kick > > or ban you if you don't cooperate. > > > > What the server should NOT be able to do is to MAKE you do > anything, > > except leave, without your knowledge and consent. > > > > A lot of the code, in my opinion, needs to be reworked so > the the same > > functions as before (such as team switching, slaying, etc.) are > > available as things to be done to the player instead of forcing the > > player to do these things themselves. To my very limited > > understanding, such reworkings are already in progress. > > > > When it comes to connecting to another server, I've already said, a > > popup dialog box (similar to the auto-retry when full > dialog box) pops > > up saying "we recommend" and it could have one or multiple > servers. > > Then you could say "No, connect me to this one, auto-join > when ready". > > Server ops could set whether that dialog box pops up all > the time, or > > only when the server is full. > > > > And similarly, a dialog box if a server is closed, forwarding on to > > the correct server. > > > > The point is, ops shouldn't be able to take control of your > keyboard > > and do things for you. They can kick you off their server, > but they > > shouldn't force where you go after that, without knowledge > or consent of the user. > > That's abuse. That's not "My house, my rules", that's "You > are now my > > slave until you manually disconnect." > > > > Sarcasm is not appreciated, so let's try to be > constructive, okay? I > > realize I'm new here, but I figure petty fighting isn't going to > > accomplish much. I figure there's so many ways we could > improve this > > game if we work constructively and share ideas. > > > > --Thortok2000 > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Roman Hatsiev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 5:28 AM > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Valve...can we get the connect command for > > redirect in SCRDS? > > > > > Server commands were disabled just in tide with this > brand new idea > > > of protecting players from server operators abuse and > giving players > > > more choice than ever. At the same time this choice is > being taken > > > away from sever operators. I just suggest to make next > logical step > > > because kick and ban abuse is far worse that anything else. For > > > example, yesterday I got banned on one of servers in Germany just > > > for five kills of server admin I made in row so he > started falling > > > from the top of his stats. This IS abuse, not the server > commands or > > > redirect or anything else. We must do something. Let's start vote > > > topic on Steam forums and you'll see what community > thinks about it. > > > > > > On 20/12/06, Joshua Handelsman-Woolf (DogGunn) > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > >> Well I think you may of taken it the wrong way. What I'm > suggesting > > >> is, if there was to forced functions such as the connect > command, > > >> it would be nice to have a dialog or something to say > you have been > > >> recommended to move to this server instead of just > joining another server. > > >> Roman Hatsiev wrote: > > >> > Everyone hate being kicked or banned. I suggest > removing kick and > > >> > banid commands from the game. It must be a player's choice > > >> > whether to play on this server, not server operator's. > Also kick > > >> > and ban are widely abused by many server operators, we must do > > >> > something to protect players! The freedom of choice > for players > > >> > is everything, while server operators deserve no choice at all. > > >> > > > >> > On 20/12/06, Joshua Handelsman-Woolf (DogGunn) > > >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >> > wrote: > > >> >> Oh noes, please not the redirect, that annoyed me. I > hated being > > >> >> switched to another server without actually being > given the option. > > >> >> john @ GamersCoalition wrote: > > >> >> > No reason to be afraid; thanks for the recommendation. > > >> >> > > > >> >> > On 12/19/06, Graham Robinson > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> >> >> "But they might also find it "annoying" to not be able to > > >> >> >> connect > > >> >> to a > > >> >> >> server showing 20/23 > > >> >> >> because of 3 reserve slots." > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> I'm afraid to say this but you are doing your reserve slot > > >> >> >> system wrong then. 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