i found the beta to be junk
1.none of the usual console errors are fixed,
2. i get the same 512 fps from console on a stock server
3. pings did appear to be more level, but at a higher ping in general by 5ms
or so

dual core conroe 1.8
2gig ram
oc48 100 mb connection
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>    1. More lag w/ Beta. (Peter N)
>    2. Re: More lag w/ Beta. (ShootMe)
>    3. Re: More lag w/ Beta. (Hell Phoenix)
>    4. Re: More lag w/ Beta. (ShootMe)
>    5. Re: More lag w/ Beta. (Hell Phoenix)
>    6. Re: More lag w/ Beta. (ShootMe)
>    7. Re: More lag w/ Beta. (Kevin Ottalini)
>    8. Re: More lag w/ Beta. (ShootMe)
>    9. Re: More lag w/ Beta. (Kevin Ottalini)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 07:01:26 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Peter N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: [hlds] More lag w/ Beta.
> Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>
> --
> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> I installed the Beta yesterday morning and it a my users reported much
more=
>  lag than ever before.  I have since gone back to stock.  Has anyone else
h=
> ad this problem?
>
> |MD| Multideath =AE
> --
>
>
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>
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2007 17:42:35 +0200
> From: ShootMe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To:  hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [hlds] More lag w/ Beta.
> Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>
> I'd the same problems with Beta - i did now again the downgrade to Built
> 2949 which works without any lags:
>
> Beta with Problems:
> Protocol version 7
> Exe version 1.0.0.7 (dod)
> Exe build: 14:43:53 Apr  2 2007 (3068)
>
> Built 2949 without Problems:
> Protocol version 7
> Exe version 1.0.0.7 (dod)
> Exe build: 18:24:30 Jan  3 2007 (2949)
>
> System is Debian Sarge 3.1 on Pentium D930 and 1000 HZ Kernel.
> Gameserver is a 32 Slot DoD:S with 66 Tickrate
>
> Thomas
>
> Peter N wrote:
> > --
> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > I installed the Beta yesterday morning and it a my users reported much
mo=
> re lag than ever before.  I have since gone back to stock.  Has anyone
else=
>  had this problem?
> >
> > |MD| Multideath =AE
> > --
> >
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2007 11:14:22 -0500
> From: Hell Phoenix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To:  hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [hlds] More lag w/ Beta.
> Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>
> The beta wasnt updated until last night...so you still tried the first
> version of the beta with the known problem.  Redownload and try again,
> you should be ok.
>
> HP
>
> Peter N wrote:
> > --
> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > I installed the Beta yesterday morning and it a my users reported much
mo=
> re lag than ever before.  I have since gone back to stock.  Has anyone
else=
>  had this problem?
> >
> > |MD| Multideath =AE
> > --
> >
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2007 18:23:32 +0200
> From: ShootMe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To:  hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [hlds] More lag w/ Beta.
> Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>
> So the Beta with Built 3068 from 2.4.2007 had still the lag problem?
>
> I updated today in the morning (GMT+1) and got the Built 3068 and had
> lag problems like with the "regular" version.
>
> Thomas
>
> Hell Phoenix wrote:
> > The beta wasnt updated until last night...so you still tried the first
> > version of the beta with the known problem.  Redownload and try again,
> > you should be ok.
> >
> > HP
> >
> > Peter N wrote:
> >> --
> >> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> >> I installed the Beta yesterday morning and it a my users reported
> >> much more lag than ever before.  I have since gone back to stock.
> >> Has anyone else had this problem?
> >>
> >> |MD| Multideath =AE
>
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2007 11:50:31 -0500
> From: Hell Phoenix <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To:  hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [hlds] More lag w/ Beta.
> Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>
> The new build is 3070.
>
> ShootMe wrote:
> > So the Beta with Built 3068 from 2.4.2007 had still the lag problem?
> >
> > I updated today in the morning (GMT+1) and got the Built 3068 and had
> > lag problems like with the "regular" version.
> >
> > Thomas
> >
> > Hell Phoenix wrote:
> >
> >> The beta wasnt updated until last night...so you still tried the first
> >> version of the beta with the known problem.  Redownload and try again,
> >> you should be ok.
> >>
> >> HP
> >>
> >> Peter N wrote:
> >>
> >>> --
> >>> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> >>> I installed the Beta yesterday morning and it a my users reported
> >>> much more lag than ever before.  I have since gone back to stock.
> >>> Has anyone else had this problem?
> >>>
> >>> |MD| Multideath =AE
> >>>
> >
> >
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2007 08:14:05 +0200
> From: ShootMe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To:  hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [hlds] More lag w/ Beta.
> Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>
> And how to get this built? I deleted the content of the bin directory
> that he is forced to re-download the content and i used the "-beta
> srcds0407" but i still get the 3068 and not 3070.
>
> Thomas
>
>
> Hell Phoenix wrote:
> > The new build is 3070.
> >
> > ShootMe wrote:
> >> So the Beta with Built 3068 from 2.4.2007 had still the lag problem?
> >>
> >> I updated today in the morning (GMT+1) and got the Built 3068 and had
> >> lag problems like with the "regular" version.
> >>
> >> Thomas
> >>
> >> Hell Phoenix wrote:
> >>
> >>> The beta wasnt updated until last night...so you still tried the first
> >>> version of the beta with the known problem.  Redownload and try again,
> >>> you should be ok.
> >>>
> >>> HP
> >>>
> >>> Peter N wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> >>>> I installed the Beta yesterday morning and it a my users reported
> >>>> much more lag than ever before.  I have since gone back to stock.
> >>>> Has anyone else had this problem?
> >>>>
> >>>> |MD| Multideath =AE
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 7
> From: "Kevin Ottalini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
> Subject: Re: [hlds] More lag w/ Beta.
> Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 23:22:27 -0700
> Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>
> dont use quote marks around the beta switch
>
> hldsupdatetool -command update -game hl2mp -dir . -beta srcds0407
>
> (fix the -game for your game and -dir for your install location)
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ShootMe"
> To: <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 11:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [hlds] More lag w/ Beta.
>
>
> And how to get this built? I deleted the content of the bin directory
> that he is forced to re-download the content and i used the "-beta
> srcds0407" but i still get the 3068 and not 3070.
>
> Thomas
>
>
> Hell Phoenix wrote:
> > The new build is 3070.
> >
> > ShootMe wrote:
> >> So the Beta with Built 3068 from 2.4.2007 had still the lag problem?
> >>
> >> I updated today in the morning (GMT+1) and got the Built 3068 and had
> >> lag problems like with the "regular" version.
> >>
> >> Thomas
> >>
> >> Hell Phoenix wrote:
> >>
> >>> The beta wasnt updated until last night...so you still tried the first
> >>> version of the beta with the known problem.  Redownload and try again,
> >>> you should be ok.
> >>>
> >>> HP
> >>>
> >>> Peter N wrote:
> >>>
>
> >>>> I installed the Beta yesterday morning and it a my users reported
> >>>> much more lag than ever before.  I have since gone back to stock.
> >>>> Has anyone else had this problem?
> >>>>
> >>>> |MD| Multideath =AE
>
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2007 08:36:01 +0200
> From: ShootMe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To:  hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [hlds] More lag w/ Beta.
> Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>
> I used this command -> ./steam -command update -game "dods" -dir ./
> -beta srcds0407
>
> And as i got the built 3068 it looks working (and i got back the files
> from bin directory which i deleted before).
>
> Kevin Ottalini wrote:
> > dont use quote marks around the beta switch
> >
> > hldsupdatetool -command update -game hl2mp -dir . -beta srcds0407
> >
> > (fix the -game for your game and -dir for your install location)
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "ShootMe"
> > To: <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
> > Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 11:14 PM
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] More lag w/ Beta.
> >
> >
> > And how to get this built? I deleted the content of the bin directory
> > that he is forced to re-download the content and i used the "-beta
> > srcds0407" but i still get the 3068 and not 3070.
> >
> > Thomas
> >
> >
> > Hell Phoenix wrote:
> >> The new build is 3070.
> >>
> >> ShootMe wrote:
> >>> So the Beta with Built 3068 from 2.4.2007 had still the lag problem?
> >>>
> >>> I updated today in the morning (GMT+1) and got the Built 3068 and had
> >>> lag problems like with the "regular" version.
> >>>
> >>> Thomas
> >>>
> >>> Hell Phoenix wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> The beta wasnt updated until last night...so you still tried the
first
> >>>> version of the beta with the known problem.  Redownload and try
again,
> >>>> you should be ok.
> >>>>
> >>>> HP
> >>>>
> >>>> Peter N wrote:
> >>>>
> >
> >>>>> I installed the Beta yesterday morning and it a my users reported
> >>>>> much more lag than ever before.  I have since gone back to stock.
> >>>>> Has anyone else had this problem?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> |MD| Multideath =AE
>
>
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 9
> From: "Kevin Ottalini" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
> Subject: Re: [hlds] More lag w/ Beta.
> Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 00:23:18 -0700
> Reply-To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>
>
> This is the win32 list you should be posting on the linux server list, but
> in summary:
>
> clean non-beta linux install, you should see this:
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> ./steam -command update -game dods -dir .
>
> Checking bootstrapper version ...
> Updating Installation
> Checking/Installing 'Base Source Shared Materials' version 8
>
> Checking/Installing 'Base Source Shared Models' version 4
>
> Checking/Installing 'Base Source Shared Sounds' version 4
>
> Checking/Installing 'Day of Defeat Source Base Content' version 17
>
> Checking/Installing 'Source Dedicated Server Linux' version 75
>
> HLDS installation up to date
>
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>
> clean Linux Beta install you should see this:
> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>
> ./steam -command update -game dods -dir . -beta srcds0407
>
> Checking bootstrapper version ...
> Updating Installation
> Checking/Installing 'Base Source Shared Materials' version 8
>
> Checking/Installing 'Base Source Shared Models' version 4
>
> Checking/Installing 'Base Source Shared Sounds' version 4
>
> Checking/Installing 'Day of Defeat Source Base Content' version 17
>
> Checking/Installing 'Source Dedicated Server Linux' version 77
>
> HLDS installation up to date
>
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>
> running win32 hl2mp beta, the version information:
>
> Protocol version 7
> Exe version 1.0.0.12 (hl2dm)
> Exe build: 20:48:41 Apr  4 2007 (3070)
>
> running linux dods beta,  the version information:
>
> Protocol version 7
> Exe version 1.0.0.7 (dod)
> Exe build: 14:43:53 Apr  2 2007 (3068)
>
> so 3068 is the current available beta build for linux servers and 3070 for
> Win32 servers
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ShootMe"
> To: <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 11:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [hlds] More lag w/ Beta.
>
>
> I used this command -> ./steam -command update -game "dods" -dir ./
> -beta srcds0407
>
> And as i got the built 3068 it looks working (and i got back the files
> from bin directory which i deleted before).
>
> Kevin Ottalini wrote:
> > dont use quote marks around the beta switch
> >
> > hldsupdatetool -command update -game hl2mp -dir . -beta srcds0407
> >
> > (fix the -game for your game and -dir for your install location)
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "ShootMe"
> > To: <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
> > Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 11:14 PM
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] More lag w/ Beta.
> >
> >
> > And how to get this built? I deleted the content of the bin directory
> > that he is forced to re-download the content and i used the "-beta
> > srcds0407" but i still get the 3068 and not 3070.
> >
> > Thomas
> >
> >
> > Hell Phoenix wrote:
> >> The new build is 3070.
> >>
> >> ShootMe wrote:
> >>> So the Beta with Built 3068 from 2.4.2007 had still the lag problem?
> >>>
> >>> I updated today in the morning (GMT+1) and got the Built 3068 and had
> >>> lag problems like with the "regular" version.
> >>>
> >>> Thomas
> >>>
> >>> Hell Phoenix wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> The beta wasnt updated until last night...so you still tried the
first
> >>>> version of the beta with the known problem.  Redownload and try
again,
> >>>> you should be ok.
> >>>>
> >>>> HP
> >>>>
> >>>> Peter N wrote:
> >>>>
> >
> >>>>> I installed the Beta yesterday morning and it a my users reported
> >>>>> much more lag than ever before.  I have since gone back to stock.
> >>>>> Has anyone else had this problem?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> |MD| Multideath =AE
>
>
>
>
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