I wonder which services from vanilla Windows installation may affect
srcds? The only service I can think of is firewall. Anything else?

On 23/10/2007, Kevin Ottalini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> For running one or two srcds, you probably won't see a big difference for
> 512K, 1MB or 2MB L2 cache or 533 / 800 MHz for that matter.
>
> 256K L2 cache will be noticeably slower though.
>
> If I had to rate value I would say:
>
> 1. P4 Northwood or newer (not Celeron)
> 2. higher cpu clock rate (higher clock rates demands a better cpu cooler
> like a zalman though)
> 3. matched performance memory (2 sticks in Dual channel mode)
> 4. more system memory (1GB minimum, 2GB best, no more then 2 sticks in
> either case, 4 stick of memory = slower)
> 5. 800MHz memory (PC3200 C2)
>
> Normal P4: 512K L2 cache (Northwood) is fine, no need to burn money on EE
> P4: 2MB L2 cache
> AMD 64 cpu running 32-bit OS is going to be pretty similar (forget 64-bit
> OS).
>
> Is an AMD 3200+ as good as an Intel 3.0 P4? IMO it's a toss up.  I have both
> but prefer intel, Intel mobos seem to be a little more stable.
>
> A really good case and powersupply with good flow-through cooling is worth
> the extra expense as well as a good UPS.
>
> As a baseline comparison, a P4 3.0GHz / 800MHz / 512K L2 machine with 2GB
> memory can run 4ea SRCDS (no bots!, 300FPS) and see an average ~50%
> utilization peaking occasionally at 75% (map changes) with 50 to 64 players
> (hi-res timer enabled).
>
> CPU% is very dependent on the map and the mod though, so two or three TF2
> sessions (or CSS with bots) might max the system out.
>
> I'm also talking pure vanilla SRCDS here, no addons.
>
> Win2K3 is going to be a little better then XP Pro but disabling unneeded
> services in both can make a big difference.
>
> If you're looking at a datacenter box, get the 3.0 P4/800/512K L2 with 2GB
> memory unless $ is a big problem, it's worth the extra pennies.
>
> If you need to run more then 4 SRCDS on one box look into a newer core2duo
> or dual AMD but be aware that 2 physical CPUs does not give you 2X the
> performance, and more servers means you will need more physical memory too
> ($ is going to be a lot more overall).
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <taytrrs>
> To: <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 5:01 PM
> Subject: [hlds] P4 vs. Celeron vs. AMD
>
>
> > Does anyone have, or could refer me to, any SRCDS specific performance
> > comparisons between Celeron and P4 processors--or same for AMD?  More
> > specifically, how much better for how much more cache/bus and at what
> > amount
> > of cache/bus does the performance curve level?  Would a (P4 3GHz 800MHz
> > 2MB)
> > outperform a (P4 3GHz 800MHz 1MB)? A (P4 3GHz 800MHz 1MB) outperform a (P4
> > 3GHz 533MHz 256KB)? By how much?
> >
> > For example: What is average CPU% for (P4 3GHz 800MHz 1MB) vs. a (Celeron
> > 3GHz 533MHz 256KB) given all other factors equal.
> >
> > Thanks!!
> > Rick
>
>
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