Nevermind, just read your second post. On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Brad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'd like to know how you have internet users joining your server behind a > NAT using matchmaking. > > > On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 5:46 PM, msleeper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Yeah L4D has really changed things up for clients so I don't think it is >> a "lower level" question to ask. I am wary of putting the search key on >> my servers in fear of no traffic getting pushed to them, since the vast >> majority of players don't use the search key. There isn't any >> integration of it in the GUI that I was aware of, and if the search key >> is a Valve-preferred method of people finding servers, I'd like to know >> if they would be willing to add it in to Multiplayer options somewhere. >> >> >> >> On Thu, 2008-11-20 at 18:42 -0500, o k wrote: >> > I don't even know why I bothered to try to help you. Why don't you try >> what >> > I suggested and figure it out fully for yourself. >> > >> > And the other guy had a legit question. You don't get to police this >> mailing >> > list. If you ask a question, you best expect people to respond to the >> best >> > of their ability, and even raise further questions. >> > >> > On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 6:34 PM, Jonathan Ritchie <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >wrote: >> > >> > > Thats a much lower level of question than this thread is attempting to >> > > address. Please try to avoid polluting the thread. >> > > >> > > L4D uses a nearly identical server setup to all the rest of the Valve >> > > games and is in general command line and configuration file based. >> > > Plenty of documentation on the basics is available from Valve. >> > > >> > > Jonathan Ritchie >> > > >> > > 2008/11/20 msleeper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> > > > Is there any way to edit these options from the GUI, or does a >> client >> > > > have to input these in the console and/or a config file? >> > > > >> > > > On Thu, 2008-11-20 at 18:23 -0500, o k wrote: >> > > >> Sounds like you need to use a search key. Set the same key on your >> > > server, >> > > >> and on your client when you make the lobby. And in theory, it >> should >> > > choose >> > > >> your server to join from the lobby, because the search key is the >> same. >> > > At >> > > >> least that's how I understood it. >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> sv_search_key : 0 : >> : >> > > >> When searching for a dedicated server from lobby, restrict search >> to >> > > only >> > > >> dedicated servers having the same sv_search_key. >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> sv_search_max_ping : 250 >> > > >> : : Maximum acceptable ping when lobby leader >> searches >> > > for >> > > >> dedicated servers. >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> sv_search_max_results : 75 >> > > >> : : Stop searching for dedicated servers once this >> many >> > > are >> > > >> found. >> > > >> >> > > >> On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 6:11 PM, Jonathan Ritchie < >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > > >wrote: >> > > >> >> > > >> > My bad - I forgot to say what happens at the moment. >> > > >> > >> > > >> > The server starts and runs. I can connect to it using my internal >> ip. >> > > >> > My friends can connect to it using my external ip. We can play >> fine >> > > >> > with the exception that we cannot use a lobby so we cannot choose >> > > >> > characters. I just restart the server to specify the difficulty >> we >> > > >> > want and then in game we choose the campaign. >> > > >> > >> > > >> > Sometimes, very occasionally I can see the server listed as a >> steam >> > > >> > group server on my main L4D game menu. My friends have never >> reported >> > > >> > seeing this, but I have never managed to get them to check at a >> time >> > > >> > when I can see it. >> > > >> > >> > > >> > I can see the server listed in both the LAN tabs and the custom >> tab of >> > > >> > the serverbrowser available in the console with >> openserverbrowser. >> > > >> > >> > > >> > So I really need: >> > > >> > >> > > >> > 1. A way to choose characters. >> > > >> > 2. A way for my friends to connect to my server without using a >> > > >> > console and connect command, or the serverbrowser (because L4D >> should >> > > >> > use matchmaking). >> > > >> > >> > > >> > Thanks >> > > >> > >> > > >> > Jonathan Ritchie >> > > >> > >> > > >> > 2008/11/20 Jonathan Ritchie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> > > >> > > Hello >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > I have read the lists and the forums and I cant find a solution >> for >> > > >> > > what I want to do that I can test reliably. I figured I would >> just >> > > >> > > post what I want to happen and you guys can tell me why its >> hard to >> > > do >> > > >> > > either from the configuration or network side. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > I have a series of computers behind a firewall/router. They all >> have >> > > >> > > local IP numbers. I run my server on a machine with IP >> 192.168.1.4. >> > > I >> > > >> > > want to run a Left 4 Dead server on this machine that has the >> > > >> > > following characteristics. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > 1. Only people in a given steam group should be able to connect >> to >> > > it. >> > > >> > > No passwords should be required either. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > 2. If a user is in my steam group all they need to do is to go >> to >> > > >> > > option to play on a server for my steam group. When they create >> a >> > > >> > > lobby here (instead of connecting directly) then they will use >> my >> > > >> > > server - it will not be a public lobby. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > 3. The game will display the fact that a steam group server is >> > > >> > > available on the main menu to all users of my steamgroup all of >> the >> > > >> > > time. This seems to work VERY VERY OCCASIONALLY at the moment >> (like >> > > 5% >> > > >> > > of the time its there, 95% its not - status can change without >> a >> > > >> > > server restart). >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > 4. Its easy to connect to my server using a lobby - this is >> > > important >> > > >> > > because at the moment there IS NO WAY TO CHOOSE YOUR CHARACTER. >> The >> > > >> > > other way to phrase this is you do not have to connect to a >> server >> > > >> > > that is already running a game. I want to start a new one.... >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > To me this all seems incredibly basic. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > We have a variable that sets the steam group id for a server. >> When >> > > the >> > > >> > > client checks for a steam group server it just matches these >> strings >> > > >> > > and only returns these servers. I cannot see how this cannot >> work >> > > >> > > reliably. When you create a new lobby for a steam group, it >> must >> > > find >> > > >> > > one of those servers as long as they are broadcasting to the >> master, >> > > >> > > and mine clearly suggests that it is. The lobby code works in >> > > general, >> > > >> > > so I don't see why it does not see my server. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > I am pretty sure that the steam master servers can see my >> server. >> > > When >> > > >> > > I start it up it says: >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Adding master server 69.28.140.247:27011 >> > > >> > > Adding master server 68.142.72.250:27011 >> > > >> > > Sending heartbeat to master server... >> > > >> > > Connection to steam servers successful. >> > > >> > > VAC secure mode is activated. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > So I don't understand why it fails, don't understand why it is >> not >> > > >> > > consistent and don't understand why I cant create a lobby then >> > > connect >> > > >> > > to my server in some way.... Its all very frustrating. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > My server.cfg: >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > // Server Name >> > > >> > > hostname "Rico's Left 4 Dead Server" >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > // Rcon Cvars >> > > >> > > rcon_password somepassword >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > // this will allows you to find a server through matchmaking >> with a >> > > >> > > specific search string >> > > >> > > // note that I have tried with and without this key >> > > >> > > sv_search_key some_special_key >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > // steam group that has access to the server >> > > >> > > sv_steamgroup 599155 >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > // only for members of certain steam group >> > > >> > > // also tried a value of 2 here >> > > >> > > sv_steamgroup_exclusive 1 >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > // region >> > > >> > > sv_region 2 >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > And my startup line: >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > srcds.exe -console -game left4dead -autoupdate +map >> > > >> > > l4d_hospital01_apartment +ip 192.168.1.4 -port 27015 -nohltv >> > > +sv_lan 0 >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > I have read this post: >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=752866 >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > and other long threads on the forums and mailing list. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Sorry for the long post. If people cant help I hope it >> stimulates >> > > >> > discussions. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Thanks >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > Jonathan Ritchie >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > > >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, >> > > >> > please visit: >> > > >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > > >> > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ >> > > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, >> > > please visit: >> > > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ >> > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >> archives, >> > > please visit: >> > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > > > >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> > > please visit: >> > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
