I could have been a different bug, but yeah when the map would change, it would dump the people.
Scratch 10 months though, perhaps 8 or 9. -W|P On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 2:18 AM, Richard Eid <richard....@gmail.com> wrote: > Ten months? No. > > I believe the issue started appearing during the Left 4 Dead demo period. > Everyone remember the lag that would occur at the beginning of > l4d_dem_hospital_subway02? Shortly before that problem was corrected is > when I recall the timeouts happening. There was no SRCDS update that > seemed > to trigger this, either. The problem began after that bug was reported but > before the update to the demo was released to fix it. > > And remember, there were no TF2 updates during this time. The last updates > before this began happening were: > > http://store.steampowered.com/news/1917/ > http://store.steampowered.com/news/1922/ > > And then none until December 11, which is well past the date this issue > reared its head. > > I forgot what my point was. > > Sent from...I forgot that, too. > > > > -Richard Eid > > > On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 2:37 AM, CLAN RCR <clan...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > yeah.. It's been 10 months for me.. > > > > -Matt > > > > On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 1:33 AM, Cc2iscooL <cc2isc...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > It was happening long before the engineer update. > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 1:23 AM, Tony Paloma <drunkenf...@hotmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > I thought it was introduced in the update that added upgradable > > > dispensers > > > > and such. Could be wrong. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com > > > > [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Arg! > > > > Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 10:09 PM > > > > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Timeout on Map Change > > > > > > > > has anyone got any idea when this issue was actually introduced? > steam > > > > client or server/game update? > > > > > > > > might help the devs narrow down the code revision. > > > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 4:37 PM, DontWannaName! > > > > <dontwannaname...@yahoo.com>wrote: > > > > > > > > > Maybe its VAC, does VAC need to reconnect and check something > server > > > side > > > > > every map change? If you get players joining during the map change > or > > > > right > > > > > before, they move to the next map fine. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > From: Arg! <chillic...@gmail.com> > > > > > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list < > > > > > hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> > > > > > Sent: Friday, February 6, 2009 8:57:58 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Timeout on Map Change > > > > > > > > > > thats an interesting development. could it be steam or some other > > > server > > > > > querying application that is causing this. > > > > > > > > > > I have this feeling that the problem is going to be something very > > > > obscure. > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Cc2iscooL <cc2isc...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > The timeout bug seems to happen at the same time on multiple > > servers. > > > I > > > > > had > > > > > > two servers on different machines change maps at the exact same > > time > > > > and > > > > > > both of them got the timeout bug. > > > > > > > > > > > > Valve, it seems this is something on your end. > > > > > > > > > > > > Plz fix. After L4D master server update servers go boom. :( > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Chris Walker < > ch...@chriswalkr.com > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah I was aware of the fact that it won't make a difference to > > the > > > > > > server. > > > > > > > I'll just time how long it takes next time, and tell my players > > to > > > > > change > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > to arround that value. > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~Chris > > > > > > > http://chriswalkr.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 7:19 PM, Tony Paloma < > > > drunkenf...@hotmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Setting cl_timeout on the server won't change anything. > You'll > > > want > > > > > to > > > > > > > > instruct clients to set cl_timeout to longer than the map > > changes > > > > > take. > > > > > > > For > > > > > > > > example, if when the timeout bug happens it takes 3 minutes > to > > > > change > > > > > > > map, > > > > > > > > set the timeout to 4 minutes (cl_timeout 240) so that you'll > be > > > > fine. > > > > > > > > You'll > > > > > > > > want to set sv_timeout to this value as well because the > > default > > > is > > > > > > > > somewhere around 75 and leaving it will cause people to get > > > booted > > > > by > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > server. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The drawback is anyone who has legitimately timed out will > now > > > > waste > > > > > > > space > > > > > > > > for 4 minutes if you set the higher sv_timeout value. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com > > > > > > > > [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of > > Chris > > > > > Walker > > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 11:06 AM > > > > > > > > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Timeout on Map Change > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah I was just wondering what a reasonable number would be > so > > to > > > > > make > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > have enough time to pick up the server when it comes back up. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~Chris > > > > > > > > http://chriswalkr.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 7:01 PM, turb0z < > tur...@undergamer.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cl_timeout is a variable on the server side. Could this be > > set > > > > > > higher > > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > > the server to prevent client timeouts? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I haven't tested this myself so I'm not sure. It happens > so > > > > > > > > > infrequently... > > > > > > > > > I guess it doesn't hurt to try! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com > > > > > > > > > [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of > > > Chris > > > > > > Walker > > > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:35 AM > > > > > > > > > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Timeout on Map Change > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you tell them to set it to? > > > > > > > > > I'd also like to setup a message to do similar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~Chris > > > > > > > > > http://chriswalkr.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Ryan Mannion < > > > > > floormas...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is currently possible. Clients can set their > > > "cl_timeout" > > > > > > value > > > > > > > > > > locallly. I currently have a periodic message asking > > players > > > to > > > > > do > > > > > > so > > > > > > > > > > via there config files. Ultimate, this is a kludge and I > > hope > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > source of the problem, as well as the horrible lag/warp > > issue > > > > > Neph > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > been writing about, are resolved. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ryan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 4:28 AM, Kim Olesen Baarsch > > > > > > > > > > <valvewind...@baarsch.dk> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > It could be nice if it was possible to change the > timout > > > from > > > > > 30 > > > > > > > > > seconds > > > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > > > 60, or higher, so that clients wouldn't just stop > trying > > to > > > > > > > > > re-establish > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > connection to the server after the failed map change. > > > Atleast > > > > > > until > > > > > > > > > > they've > > > > > > > > > > > fixed it completely :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Kimo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > From: "CLAN RCR" <clan...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 4:07 AM > > > > > > > > > > > To: <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [hlds] Timeout on Map Change > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Do we know when this timeout on map change issue is > > going > > > to > > > > > be > > > > > > > > > > addressed? > > > > > > > > > > >> It really sucks getting a server full of people, and > > then > > > > > having > > > > > > > > them > > > > > > > > > > >> dumped > > > > > > > > > > >> at random times. > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> ..Seriously, guys.. > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> Please fix it, or give me something I can do to lessen > > the > > > > > > chances > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > > >> happening.. > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> -Matt > > > > > > > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view > the > > > list > > > > > > > > archives, > > > > > > > > > > >> please visit: > > > > > > > > > > >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the > > > list > > > > > > > > archives, > > > > > > > > > > please visit: > > > > > > > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the > > list > > > > > > > archives, > > > > > > > > > > please visit: > > > > > > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the > list > > > > > > archives, > > > > > > > > > please visit: > > > > > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the > list > > > > > > archives, > > > > > > > > > please visit: > > > > > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > > archives, > > > > > > > > please visit: > > > > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > > archives, > > > > > > > > please visit: > > > > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > > archives, > > > > > > > please visit: > > > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > > archives, > > > > > > please visit: > > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, > > > > > please visit: > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > > archives, > > > > > please visit: > > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > > > please visit: > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list > archives, > > > > please visit: > > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > > please visit: > > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > > please visit: > > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > _______________________________________________ To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, please visit: http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds
