I think the big point here is that Achievements in a PC game are up there with 
free public wifi. A great idea in theory, but an absolute disaster in practice. 
 

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From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com 
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of SakeFox
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 7:51 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] A question of ethics

i personally just don't care about either and wish the spam fest just to 
end and the mailing list go back to what it was intended for

Donnie Newlove wrote:
> How many of you who look down on msleepers truly horrible and
> unforgivable acts against the community that threaten to ruin the very
> core of everything we hold dear have ever used a fake client plugin?
>
> What do you think players find more annoying, not being able to join
> one out of a hundred communities for doing something that the
> community are against or not being able to find a place to play
> because of hundreds of empty servers trying to lure players in there
> so that they can... well, I don't know exactly. Leave and try to find
> a new one obviously. At least I know which of these two honeypots I
> think is worse.
>
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