Yeah I have to agree, this whole RAID thing is a bit overkill. Your hard
drive dies? Pay your host the $20 to replace your drive and re-install.
It's a game server, it will take like 30 minutes.

On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 06:51 -0700, Robert Whelan wrote:
> Its a game server...lol 10K SAS 146GB would do you fine. Otherwise a WD Black
> 
> I have 13 servers easily running off ours (Dual Xeon 5335 Quad Core 
> Clovertown Processors)
> 
> Create an Image, you can always upgrade if needed...
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: "xt...@shaw.ca" <xt...@shaw.ca>
> To: xt...@shaw.ca; Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list 
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> Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 8:01:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Harddrives which to choose
> 
> Ack, replying to my reply, it seems I went off on a different tnagent than 
> what was asked.
> 
> You have a fairly *beefy server.  I would not make the disk subsystem the 
> choke point for future growth.  I would also not go overboard with disks or 
> expensive RAID sets.  I would recommend 10K SAS (146/300GB) in a simple 
> RAID1.  I would start with some perf counters Disk Read, Disk Writes, Disk 
> Queue, CPU and you can grow your server knowing the impact as you grow.  You 
> can always add more disks later.  This is, of course, just my opinion and 
> opinions will vary upon everyones current experince.
> 
> Any idea how many servers and expected clients/connections?  Or did I miss 
> this in the thread?
> 
> X
> 
> 
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: xt...@shaw.ca
> 
> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:14:37 
> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list<hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Harddrives which to choose
> 
> 
> IMO, RAID1 would be sufficient especially with the IOPs current SAS/SCSI or 
> even SATA drives provide.  If RAID5 is required for critical uptime then I 
> would go as far as to suggest RAID6 just because of the shorter rebuild time 
> and higher success rate for rebuilds as there are 2 parity stripes to build 
> from.  There are fairly cheap SAS/SATA cards (Adaptec/3ware/Areca) as a 
> solution but are the extra avalable writes required?  RAID10 is just too 
> expensive a solution for an app that has small writes/reads.  RAID1, IMO, is 
> sufficient...why not use VMware to copy/move a VM each night off a JBOD or 
> RAID1 so, in a pinch, downtime could be reduced to minutes, depending on 
> hardware failure point... Without the performance degradation of disk 
> rebuilds.
> 
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Donnie Newlove <donnie.newl...@gmail.com>
> 
> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:10:44 
> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list<hlds@list.valvesoftware.com>
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Harddrives which to choose
> 
> 
> Is there really any reason to use expensive setups when it comes to
> storage? The harddrive is barley used at all except when the server
> change level but the clients have to do that as well so it's not like
> they have to wait for the server, the server will be finished in time
> even with an average consumer drive, there is no reason it would not
> be.
> 
> On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 12:50 PM, mdma <pmadma...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi everyone, this is my 1st post here, i usually sit back and just read 
> > what's going on, scanning it for useful information.
> > I need some help regarding hard drives. I'm going to be running a dedicated 
> > server soon and want to know which you guys think are better for the job.
> > The box will be running at first a couple of websites, small mysql 
> > databases, and then of course mainly game servers.
> > The websites and database etc will be moved from this box to another down 
> > the line, and it will then only run game servers.
> > My Box Specs are 1U
> > 2 x Quad Core Xeons
> > 8GB DDR2
> > 250GB Seagate CUDA ES, 7200rpm 32mb cache, with NCQ hard drives.
> >
> > Should i be worried about the performance of these hard drives under load, 
> > running multiple game servers etc, or should i upgrade them to Seagate 
> > Cheetah 15k rpm SAS drives, or 10k rpm Raptors.
> > I have been told by some that the 10k rpm Raptors perform quite well, but i 
> > would like the opinions of you guys to help me decide on the upgrade path.
> > I would hate to put all this time into setting everything up, only to have 
> > the hard drives cause  me issues down the track.
> >
> > Many Thanks
> >
> > Roy Jonas
> >
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