But that's too much work for us lazy server admins. On 4/29/09, msleeper <mslee...@cyberwurx.com> wrote: > Yeah I have to agree, this whole RAID thing is a bit overkill. Your hard > drive dies? Pay your host the $20 to replace your drive and re-install. > It's a game server, it will take like 30 minutes. > > On Wed, 2009-04-29 at 06:51 -0700, Robert Whelan wrote: >> Its a game server...lol 10K SAS 146GB would do you fine. Otherwise a WD >> Black >> >> I have 13 servers easily running off ours (Dual Xeon 5335 Quad Core >> Clovertown Processors) >> >> Create an Image, you can always upgrade if needed... >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: "xt...@shaw.ca" <xt...@shaw.ca> >> To: xt...@shaw.ca; Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list >> <hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 29, 2009 8:01:25 AM >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Harddrives which to choose >> >> Ack, replying to my reply, it seems I went off on a different tnagent than >> what was asked. >> >> You have a fairly *beefy server. I would not make the disk subsystem the >> choke point for future growth. I would also not go overboard with disks >> or expensive RAID sets. I would recommend 10K SAS (146/300GB) in a simple >> RAID1. I would start with some perf counters Disk Read, Disk Writes, Disk >> Queue, CPU and you can grow your server knowing the impact as you grow. >> You can always add more disks later. This is, of course, just my opinion >> and opinions will vary upon everyones current experince. >> >> Any idea how many servers and expected clients/connections? Or did I miss >> this in the thread? >> >> X >> >> >> >> Sent from my BlackBerry device on the Rogers Wireless Network >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: xt...@shaw.ca >> >> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:14:37 >> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing >> list<hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Harddrives which to choose >> >> >> IMO, RAID1 would be sufficient especially with the IOPs current SAS/SCSI >> or even SATA drives provide. If RAID5 is required for critical uptime >> then I would go as far as to suggest RAID6 just because of the shorter >> rebuild time and higher success rate for rebuilds as there are 2 parity >> stripes to build from. There are fairly cheap SAS/SATA cards >> (Adaptec/3ware/Areca) as a solution but are the extra avalable writes >> required? RAID10 is just too expensive a solution for an app that has >> small writes/reads. RAID1, IMO, is sufficient...why not use VMware to >> copy/move a VM each night off a JBOD or RAID1 so, in a pinch, downtime >> could be reduced to minutes, depending on hardware failure point... >> Without the performance degradation of disk rebuilds. >> >> >> Sent from my BlackBerry device on the Rogers Wireless Network >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Donnie Newlove <donnie.newl...@gmail.com> >> >> Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:10:44 >> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing >> list<hlds@list.valvesoftware.com> >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Harddrives which to choose >> >> >> Is there really any reason to use expensive setups when it comes to >> storage? The harddrive is barley used at all except when the server >> change level but the clients have to do that as well so it's not like >> they have to wait for the server, the server will be finished in time >> even with an average consumer drive, there is no reason it would not >> be. >> >> On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 12:50 PM, mdma <pmadma...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> > Hi everyone, this is my 1st post here, i usually sit back and just read >> > what's going on, scanning it for useful information. >> > I need some help regarding hard drives. I'm going to be running a >> > dedicated server soon and want to know which you guys think are better >> > for the job. >> > The box will be running at first a couple of websites, small mysql >> > databases, and then of course mainly game servers. >> > The websites and database etc will be moved from this box to another >> > down the line, and it will then only run game servers. >> > My Box Specs are 1U >> > 2 x Quad Core Xeons >> > 8GB DDR2 >> > 250GB Seagate CUDA ES, 7200rpm 32mb cache, with NCQ hard drives. >> > >> > Should i be worried about the performance of these hard drives under >> > load, running multiple game servers etc, or should i upgrade them to >> > Seagate Cheetah 15k rpm SAS drives, or 10k rpm Raptors. >> > I have been told by some that the 10k rpm Raptors perform quite well, >> > but i would like the opinions of you guys to help me decide on the >> > upgrade path. >> > I would hate to put all this time into setting everything up, only to >> > have the hard drives cause me issues down the track. >> > >> > Many Thanks >> > >> > Roy Jonas >> > >> >_______________________________________________ >> > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> > please visit: >> > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds > > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > http://list.valvesoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/hlds >
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