On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 09:35:14PM -0800, SmOoThEm wrote:
> The spaces were in the file name, that is an exact copy and paste of the
> file name. And to reply about admins trying to get their servers started....
> if you have been doing this for as long as I have you find it gets really
> old populating servers every day for years on end, especially when you have
> 20+.

Oh I know, I have had between 2 and 10 servers since tf2 beta (currently
8) but I still don't think that having a bunch of servers makes it ok to
trick users or try to gain an advantage by faking information about your
servers.  Since people do cheat the system, that forces all the honest
server operators to have to choose between also being dishonest or having
to work even harder to get their servers going.  This is the same garbage
excuse that people spewed when they lied about their server tags - and
it stunk then and it stinks now.  I'll keep hoping that some day there
is a blacklist, and then you can really experience empty servers. 

I like having players on my server as much as the next admin, but unless
you're doing some sort of a money grab by selling admin or have found a 
way to convert server popularity into something useful IRL I honestly
don't understand why there is such a drive to race to the bottom.

-octo
 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of Octo
> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 9:14 PM
> To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Its the law!
> 
> On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 07:44:58PM -0800, SmOoThEm wrote:
> > These people downloaded everyone's server configs, and my rcon password
> was
> > unhackable due to the complexity of it. Only one of my servers were
> > affected. If you look in your cfg folder and you see a "server.cfg.
> .ztmp"
> > then you have been hacked too. I have a feeling there is a major exploit
> in
> > the wild that will soon hit more than fakeclient servers.
> 
> Are those spaces or a tab trailing the .cfg?
>  
> > And for the record we run fake clients for one reason, so our server shows
> > up on the list when you refresh. By default empty servers will not show up
> > in the master list, no one will ever see the empty server to populate it.
> We
> > only have 1 client running because we know how much the community hates
> > them.
> 
> So why not lobby for that setting to be changed, or maybe sit on your server
> like other admins do trying to get them going?  As an admin who does take
> the
> time to try to get his servers going and rewards users who take the time to
> make the servers visible I'm glad to see that your community believes that
> the
> best way of achieving the same result is dishonesty.  
> 
> -octo
> 
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