Yeah, you got a good point there. I don't know why they just can't build in
a button on the main TF2 screen that you click and you get a simple chat
window... with a user listing... and it have like link generation that
people can just click to open trade with whoever generated the link... like
'Trading [Fish] for buff banner' or like 'Looking for [Fish]'.. then people
could just click the link and it open up a PM chat between those two people
with a trade window on the side; and this would reduce spam.

-----Original Message-----
From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
[mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of clad iron
Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 9:01 PM
To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available

>
> Get yourself an AFK manager plugin that moves them to spec.
>

This does not stop the trading in game.
It does however keep them grouped while trading (aka spec mode).
So it could be helpful for keeping teams balanced, but then again you will
still have those people basically afk while trading taking up a slot.
Lets say you get 2 people trading, then get moved to spec. then 2 more start
trading, and they get moved to spec. (lets be realilistic about this also.
it's normally more than 4 people trading at 1 time anyway)
Lets say we have 6 people trading at 1 time. They get moved to spec for
being afk.
So now you have almost a 1/4 of the players in spec trading.
Out of the other 3/4 of the players some of them will leave (lets say 4
players) due to so many going or getting moved to spec to trade.
 So now we 1/2 a server playing. some of them will leave due to the others
that have left, and some will leave due to the amount going to spec, and
even so... some will leave due the amount of chat spam "hey anyone want to
trade?"

Simple solution is do not allow trading while in a server, and keep it in a
PM / trading post built with in steam.
This would allow everyone to chat about trading without effecting everyone
else in a server.



On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Mike O'Laughlen <molaugh...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Valve should either buy Tony's tf2items.com site and integrate it into the
> game or include a trading post to flag items to be traded for one or more
> items.
>
> On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 10:18 AM, [MP] Oh Noes! <
> ohn...@maxpowergaming.xfactorservers.com> wrote:
>
> > Get yourself an AFK manager plugin that moves them to spec. That being
> > said,
> > I think you should be able to trade through the steam browser, outside
> the
> > game.
> >
> > - Oh Noes!
> > MAX POWER Gaming Community
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com
> > [mailto:hlds-boun...@list.valvesoftware.com] On Behalf Of clad iron
> > Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 2:42 AM
> > To: Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Team Fortress 2 Update Available
> >
> > wow i thought i was the only 1 that noticed the increase of ppl standing
> > around.
> > I think trading should be limited to off server trading.
> >
> > Watching ppl spamming chat and the mic about wanting to trade gets old.
> >
> > Actually allowing them to stand around trading makes as much since as
the
> > SG's not have ANY limit on range when firing manually.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 2:12 AM, Ronny Schedel <i...@ronny-schedel.de>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > It would be nice to have a server side CVar, which prevents trading,
> > > crafting and buying on the server. This would stop the cases where one
> > team
> > > is idling the whole game.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  A required update for Team Fortress 2 is now available.  The specific
> > >> changes include:
> > >>
> > >> - Fixed an exploit that allowed people to bypass the Gloves of
Rushing
> > >> Urgently's damage taking penalty.
> > >> - Made the following items nameable: Mildly Disturbing Halloween
Mask,
> > >> Ghastly Gibus, Soldier's Medal, Honest Halo, Golden Wrench, Mann Co.
> > Cap,
> > >> Polycount Pin.
> > >> - Fixed a case where some clients where timing out while accessing
the
> > >> store.
> > >>
> > >> Jason
> > >>
> > >>
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