Feels like they penalized some servers not the others. Groups like Lotus and ProTF2 are not only running BOTS and fakeclients but ProTF2 is also using credit mod which i thought was against Valve's TOS.
On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 12:52 PM, E. Olsen <ceo.eol...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm really not sure why people act surprised when they get penalized for > these things. Fletcher was pretty clear what kinds of things they would be > penalizing for: Fake clients, making bots look like real players, and > failing to set the correct tags when you have fast respawn enabled. > > We were guilty of the last thing (omitting the fast respawn tag), but I > fixed that based on advice from Fletcher Dunn (altering the plugin so that > "mp_respawnwavetime" is altered when we have the fast respawn plugin > enabled, which forces the proper tag to be added to the browser). > > I've never understood why some operators think the only way to fill > servers is to "trick" players into joining. We've never used fake clients > or any of that other stuff, and our servers do just fine. You just need to > make it worth your player's while to help low-populations servers get going > everyday. Recently, we added a cross-platform feature that allows our > players to earn units of our minecraft currency (used on our minecraft > server) in return for helping those servers get started everyday. For every > 10 minutes they spend helping a low-population server get going, they get > minecraft $$$ to spend in our minecraft server (all tracked in real time > via a database). > > Think outside the box, instead of trying to shortcut your way to server > traffic, and you'll have much better results in the long-term. > > > > On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 12:25 PM, m33crob <ad...@m33crob.com> wrote: > >> I think you guys are possibly focusing too much on the OP. I had a >> discussion a few days ago with an admin from a different very large >> community about this topic. I do not believe that this is specific to >> Wonka Gaming. My interpretation of these events is that: because the >> Policy of Truth is not being enforced, because servers are continuing to >> use this fake client program, and because of the unfairness with QuickPlay, >> "many" communities are collaborating to release this plugin in an attempt >> to force VALVe into action. >> >> Is this really the best course of action? I don't know. It does seem >> that the above factors have polarized the community and forced some >> operators into using extremely dirty tactics to compete for traffic. >> >> Also for the record, I do not and have never used this program or >> anything else that VALVe would frown upon. >> >> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 8:45 AM, Brodie <brodie7...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I second this; would really love to understand what OP was going on >>> about. >>> >>> >>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 9:42 AM, jainil shah <shah.jai...@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> can somebody tl:dr what op is trying to say? >>>> sorry, i am not a tf2 player. i operate cs 1.6 servers. >>>> >>>> this thread as been buzzing my phone alot and now i wanna know whats >>>> going on >>>> >>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 11:39 AM, EvilMacGuyver <evilmacguy...@gmail.com >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>> I would buy a ticket to watch this but I know the match would only >>>>> last a minute. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 8:24 AM, Jethro Seabridge <jet2the...@gmail.com >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> And Wonka Gaming get to call the FBI to scramble their network. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 12:57 PM, Itaku <itaku...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I think there is only one appropriate action to this entire thing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Valve employees vs Wonka Gaming in an arena match. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And Valve gets to use the Valve weapons. >>>>>>> On May 4, 2012 7:40 AM, "zach isaac" <drgnz...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Well would you look at the time. *Looks at his watch, revealing its >>>>>>>> banhammer o'clock* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 6:02 PM, admin <ad...@wonkagaming.com>wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *Is Policy of Truth still in effect? Because I see users with >>>>>>>>> fakeclient spoof + bot join time running * >>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>> *ON WELL OVER 80 SERVERS* >>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>> *or does this only apply to WONKAGAMING? for when you banned me >>>>>>>>> for one month?!* >>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>> *Fletcher Dunn? Hello i'll start posting in here because you tend >>>>>>>>> not to care for users running it* >>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>> *I will be releasing fix to FAKE CLIENT + BOT JOIN TIME in hlds >>>>>>>>> if these server are not banned.* >>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>> * >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> This communication is for use by the intended recipient and >>>>>>>>> contains information that may be Privileged, confidential or >>>>>>>>> copyrighted >>>>>>>>> under applicable law. 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