>Hence, what he actually said was an *ad hominem argument* - That being Latin for an "attack against the man"
I stand corrected. On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 4:57 PM, Cats From Above <spotsfromab...@gmail.com> wrote: > Well actually, what he said wasn't a *strawman *at all. A strawman is the > misstatement of an argumentative position for the sake of attacking said > position in an attempt to one up your opponent. Obviously, possession of a > vendetta is not an argumentative position (false or otherwise) but rather a > motive for having a position. > > Hence, what he actually said was an *ad hominem argument* - That being > Latin for an "attack against the man" > > But in any case, I do agree that removing Valve servers from the server > browser was not an ideal solution to the problem at hand. > > On Sun, Jul 5, 2015 at 9:08 AM, Phillip Vector <t...@mostdeadlygame.com> > wrote: > >> >Logging cl_connectmethod >> >> That tells you for every server that you own. Not every server in >> existence. Your statement of "The majority of players still click play >> now instead of using the server browser" is missing something. It should >> say, "The majority of players ON MY SERVERS". >> >> Of course, we don't have proof of this even on your own server, but I'm >> willing to accept that those who connect to your servers do so via the >> "Play now" button. >> >> You still can't say that the majority of players though since you don't >> have that data. >> >> >I'm curious as to why you have a vendetta against community servers. >> >> Nice strawman there. I don't have a vendetta against community servers. I >> just dislike when community server owners think they are gods gift to TF2 >> and demand special treatment to the determent of those who want to play >> vanilla TF2. >> >> >> On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 4:28 PM, Robert Paulson <thepauls...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Logging cl_connectmethod. >>> >>> Why do you presume that I am pulling it from my ass? >>> >>> I'm curious as to why you have a vendetta against community servers. Did >>> you get put on saigns and couldn't figure out how to type "valve" in server >>> browser, so you are resorting to flaming the server owners here? >>> >>> On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 3:52 PM, Phillip Vector <t...@mostdeadlygame.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >The majority of players still click play now instead of using the >>>> server browser so removing valve servers from the browser list probably >>>> does very little for your own servers. >>>> >>>> Please tell me how you managed to get access to this data. Presuming >>>> you aren't pulling it from your ass of course. >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 2:44 PM, Robert Paulson <thepauls...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Are you all really surprised by this? Valve doesn't care about >>>>> community servers anymore. The moment 1 person complains that they >>>>> couldn't >>>>> wait 15 seconds for quickplay, it gets removed. >>>>> >>>>> Anyway you are all acting like half life 3 was announced. >>>>> >>>>> The majority of players still click play now instead of using the >>>>> server browser so removing valve servers from the browser list probably >>>>> does very little for your own servers. >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 2:36 PM, Matthias "InstantMuffin" Kollek < >>>>> proph...@sticed.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Endless waves of communities explaining how quickplay (and other >>>>>> changes ofc) destroys communities, nothing happens. >>>>>> Two people on the mailing list moan about valve servers being >>>>>> excluded from the list, instantfix. GJ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 04.07.2015 23:32, Kevin C wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> You have got to be kidding me. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://i.imgur.com/tAmWXj6.png wink wink nudge nudge >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 7/4/2015 5:28 PM, Eric Smith wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - Temporarily reverted Valve official quickplay and matchmaking >>>>>>>> servers not being listed in the server browser while we look into this >>>>>>>> further >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>>> archives, please visit: >>>>>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>>> archives, please visit: >>>>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list >>>>>> archives, please visit: >>>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>>> please visit: >>>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>>> please visit: >>>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >>> please visit: >>> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, >> please visit: >> https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, edit your list preferences, or view the list archives, > please visit: > https://list.valvesoftware.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/hlds > >
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